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Old 21.08.2012, 23:27
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Youre making up shit because you dont like my idea. Or is that because you have never traded a futures contract before?

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-0...mmer-heat.html
Just giving my opinion based on my knowledge of the markets. Its ok that you have a different opinion....hope you make a killing
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Old 21.08.2012, 23:29
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How big of a line you swinging?

How long have you traded agro futures?



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Just giving my opinion based on my knowledge of the markets. Its ok that you have a different opinion....hope you make a killing
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Old 21.08.2012, 23:36
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How big of a line you swinging?

How long have you traded agro futures?
Dude....chill out......I don't feel the need to trade CVs with you on a public forum. I'm sure you are great at your job and i'm sure the OP will take your idea. I was just giving my opinion - take it or leave it

(suggest you don't tell your boss that palm oil is "a small % of global oilcrops" though when in fact, it is....the biggest. Probably just a typo though )
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Right, its 30% of global supply but its not a big component for the EU and US, which is what we focus on. The EU subsidizes food so the supplies have to be guaranteed. So they need to buy bean oil from North America. So we look at potential supply increase. CPO is a small component. The US wont export any bean oil this year.

Forgive me for misspeaking.

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Dude....chill out......I don't feel the need to trade CVs with you on a public forum. I'm sure you are great at your job and i'm sure the OP will take your idea. I was just giving my opinion - take it or leave it

(suggest you don't tell your boss that palm oil is "a small % of global oilcrops" though when in fact, it is....the biggest. Probably just a typo though )
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Old 21.08.2012, 23:47
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Right, its 30% of global supply but its not a big component for the EU and US, which is what we focus on. The EU subsidizes food so the supplies have to be guaranteed. So they need to buy bean oil from North America. So we look at potential supply increase. CPO is a small component. The US wont export any bean oil this year.

Forgive me for misspeaking.
Forgiven, and apology accepted.

Good luck on the 50%
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Old 21.08.2012, 23:55
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Right, its 30% of global supply but its not a big component for the EU and US, which is what we focus on. The EU subsidizes food so the supplies have to be guaranteed. So they need to buy bean oil from North America. So we look at potential supply increase. CPO is a small component. The US wont export any bean oil this year.

Forgive me for misspeaking.
Oh.......and its the 2nd biggest oil in the EU, after rapeseed. Soy is 4th.

But i forgive you for misspeaking. Again
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Old 21.08.2012, 23:56
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Buy Gold.

The world debt debt situation is still precarious and far from being solved.

Many countries are overleveraged and ther will be a period of deleveraging in the next few years. This will be achieved by governments debasing fiat currencies.

Once the major fiat currencies are debased, all will be debased for the sake of competitiveness (CHF may be the safest bet, but not as safe as gold).

And I bet farmers will also buy gold
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Old 21.08.2012, 23:57
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I love it. Brilliant. Reminds me of what the academics used to call "proof by hand waving".

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Old 21.08.2012, 23:58
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EU produces CPO?

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Oh.......and its the 2nd biggest oil in the EU, after rapeseed. Soy is 4th.

But i forgive you for misspeaking. Again
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Statistically when the EU has a bad crop year they import 12% YoY more soybean oil. While on average they decrease CPO imports by 7.7%.

CPO makes up about 20% of oils used in the EU.



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Oh.......and its the 2nd biggest oil in the EU, after rapeseed. Soy is 4th.

But i forgive you for misspeaking. Again
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Old 22.08.2012, 00:25
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Invest in wine. Drink it. Worry about the future another day.
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Old 22.08.2012, 00:41
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Invest in wine. Drink it. Worry about the future another day.
Excellent idea. And statistically it has worked 100% of time.
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Buy Gold.

The world debt debt situation is still precarious and far from being solved.

Many countries are overleveraged and ther will be a period of deleveraging in the next few years. This will be achieved by governments debasing fiat currencies.

Once the major fiat currencies are debased, all will be debased for the sake of competitiveness (CHF may be the safest bet, but not as safe as gold).

And I bet farmers will also buy gold
Over 5 years it's up just under 150%, over 1 not that great because of unprecedented highs last year, up around $70 per OZ in the last 30 days (not a great indicator really because it could drop as much in the same period).

I agree with you re: the fiat currency issue, and as for farmers, small holders are snapping it up no matter what you charge...1 in 3 of my clients are US farmers.

The beauty of gold is it's nice and shiny and that always attracts (again not a great reason to judge an investment on but for 1000s of years it has been a deciding factor).

If your going to buy it and hold it, get physical, ETFs might earn more but in the long run as a safe haven you can't beat a bit of physical gold, if ETFs all had to get physical at the same time I doubt they could manage it...

If you buy it from me, I will over-charge you and hammer you on the postage, please send orders to me@iamaripoffmerchant.com
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Old 22.08.2012, 09:34
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CPO is I think the acronym for crude palm oil

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Old 22.08.2012, 09:52
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OP, I would advise you put the money on Spurs not finishing in the top 4 of the premiership.

It will pay about 35% and let's be honest, is a guarantee.

If you want to be more cautious, Everton will pay about 13% and Newcastle 15%.

Enjoy your winnings.
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The returns are not that giddy but they are steady

http://intranet.greenwood-management...FQKGDgodDioAjQ
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OP, I would advise you put the money on Spurs not finishing in the top 4 of the premiership.

It will pay about 35% and let's be honest, is a guarantee.

If you want to be more cautious, Everton will pay about 13% and Newcastle 15%.

Enjoy your winnings.
maybe you can make a bet that spurs, everton and newcastle will not finish in the top 4 and double your money...
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OMG!

That is all!
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I am not interested in commodities, either gold or agro. it is too speculative. I am interested in equities which have decent divident yields. How to trade equities in Switzerland? The fee is too high if I do it with UBS or other banks
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Go to Post Finance,

https://www.postfinance.ch/en/priv/p...ade/offer.html
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