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Old 05.11.2014, 13:27
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What about G******n ( UK daily newspaper) W****h ( rhymes with health) management?

Are they the same kind of set up? They seem to be seriously targeting OH's company at the moment.
In fact they even employ some of the same people. At least one guy who used to work with one lot now works for the other.
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Old 12.11.2014, 22:54
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Re: Dealing with financial services "cold callers"

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Apparently, De-Ve-re has a do-not-call list. Ask to be on it when they call. It seems to stop all selling discussion immediately.
I assumed having a rant and telling them to "f off and die" would get me on that do-not-call list, but it's failed 4 times so far, and I expect I'll get another call before too long. You have to admire their persistence if nothing else - or maybe people like me go on some sort of training list for their new recruits to blood themselves on.

Had a call from AES International today - never heard of them before but it was the same old story and I rumbled them immediately and told them where to go.

They all seem to use the same story currently - implying they are working with approval from my company to provide us valuable financial advice - quite funny given the large Swiss financial institution I work for down in Altstetten.

Just for the hell of it: next one calls I'm going to string them along, agree to a meeting, take them for an absolute ride, record everything and utterly waste their time. Will report back in due course.
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Old 12.11.2014, 23:12
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Re: Dealing with financial services "cold callers"

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Apparently, De-Ve-re has a do-not-call list. Ask to be on it when they call. It seems to stop all selling discussion immediately.

I don't believe I'm on it though.......we'll see next month.

I'll keep an eye on who's viewing my LinkedIn profile as that's where they seem to get the names from.
Everybody who makes cold calls in Switzerland has to have a "do-not-call list". You can ask every cold caller to put you on their "do-not-call list" and there are penalties for not adding you to the list or for calling you if you are on this list.

What the penalties are and how well this law is enforced I do not know
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Old 13.11.2014, 00:06
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Old 22.12.2014, 14:29
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deVere European Communications Centre

Hi,

I got called, in the office, by someone claiming to be from deVere. I wasn't at my desk, so when I attempted to call back, a receptionist picked up the phone on the other end and said that Ms. Whatever would call me back. She didn't. It had to do with pensions, apparently. I completely forgot about it.

Then, out of the blue, last week, I got an Outlook invite by mail, for a meeting the next day with some guy, in the office, so I thought that this was something that was sanctioned by my employer. A closer look at the invite, however, showed that the mail was sent from the "devere-ecc.com" domain. So, just to make sure, I contacted HR and asked if the company had worked with deVere, and reply came back as negative, and that they had no idea who they were.

Anyone had any similar experience? Does anyone know what they are aiming for (apart from taking as much money from me as they can)? Google didn't come up with anything really helpful.

Thanks.
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Old 22.12.2014, 14:30
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Re: deVere European Communications Centre

Darn typo... The Title should obviously be:
"deVere European Communications Centre"
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Old 22.12.2014, 14:32
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Re: deVere European Communicatioons Centre

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Hi,

I got called, in the office, by someone claiming to be from deVere. I wasn't at my desk, a receptionist picked up the phone on the other end and said that Ms. Whatever would call me back. She didn't. It had to do with pensions, apparently. I completely forgot about it.

Then, out of the blue, last week, I got an Outlook invite by mail, for a meeting the next day with some guy, in the office, so I thought that this was something that was sanctioned by my employer. A closer look at the invite, however, showed that the mail was sent from the "devere-ecc.com" domain. So, just to make sure, I contacted HR and asked if the company had worked with deVere, and reply came back as negative, and that they had no idea who they were.

Anyone had any similar experience? Does anyone know what they are aiming for (apart from taking as much money from me as they can)? Google didn't come up with anything really helpful.

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Old 22.12.2014, 14:36
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Re: deVere European Communicatioons Centre

These guys are parasites employing every trick under the sun to ensnare expat clients. You'll find them hanging around cafeterias, using internal phones in reception areas, name-dropping your colleagues who they've researched on Linked-in etc.

Avoid them like the plague.
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Old 22.12.2014, 14:42
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Re: deVere European Communicatioons Centre

Thanks for the quick replies...

I kinda figured as much, but it was the Outlook mail and rendezvous in the office that threw me off.

Had a very bad experience with one of those Health Insurance broker firms (working for the Group Mutuelle) when still living in Zurich, and I had to go all the way and get the Ombudsmann involved to reach a mutual understanding.

Once bitten twice shy, as they say.
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Old 22.12.2014, 14:46
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These guys are parasites employing every trick under the sun to ensnare expat clients. You'll find them hanging around cafeterias, using internal phones in reception areas, name-dropping your colleagues who they've researched on Linked-in etc.

Avoid them like the plague.
Actually, funny thing is, despite my name (very middle eastern), I am not an expat anymore (got the passport with the white cross on the red background now)
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Old 22.12.2014, 15:26
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Hi,

I got called, in the office, by someone claiming to be from deVere. I wasn't at my desk, so when I attempted to call back, a receptionist picked up the phone on the other end and said that Ms. Whatever would call me back. She didn't. It had to do with pensions, apparently. I completely forgot about it.

Then, out of the blue, last week, I got an Outlook invite by mail, for a meeting the next day with some guy, in the office, so I thought that this was something that was sanctioned by my employer. A closer look at the invite, however, showed that the mail was sent from the "devere-ecc.com" domain. So, just to make sure, I contacted HR and asked if the company had worked with deVere, and reply came back as negative, and that they had no idea who they were.

Anyone had any similar experience? Does anyone know what they are aiming for (apart from taking as much money from me as they can)? Google didn't come up with anything really helpful.

Thanks.
Let's just sit back and wait how long until this thread gets deleted.

Don't you know that on the EF it is a crime to say anything negative about the company that pays the hand that feeds this forum, or whatever their relationship is this week?
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Re: deVere European Communicatioons Centre

Yep as above devere scans forums and then threatens legal action against websites etc. People dont have the balls to tell them to piss off and instead just delete the postings.
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Old 22.12.2014, 17:47
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Let's just sit back and wait how long until this thread gets deleted.

Don't you know that on the EF it is a crime to say anything negative about the company that pays the hand that feeds this forum, or whatever their relationship is this week?
Fortunately sites like webarchive.org don't succumb to threats.
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Old 22.12.2014, 17:48
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Re: deVere European Communications Centre

Ah, I suppose that's why I couldn't find anything objective about them in forums and the such when I googled earlier on
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Old 22.12.2014, 20:53
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that's given me something to get my mail admins to look for in our logs. We don't often blacklist domains but some clothes company spammed 30% of our people three times in six weeks and are now not getting through

They reign me back in when I try to blacklist a domain for 100'000+ addresses though.....
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Let's just sit back and wait how long until this thread gets deleted.

Don't you know that on the EF it is a crime to say anything negative about the company that pays the hand that feeds this forum, or whatever their relationship is this week?
It'll probably get deleted in the not too distant future, but not because there's any financial relationship.

When you're making millions on the bleeding edge of criminality and morality, then you tend to retain a lot more lawyers than your average forum.
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Re: deVere European Communications Centre

Be afraid! Be very afraid.
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Old 30.12.2014, 17:04
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Re: deVere European Communications Centre

I'm surprised that there's any justification for posts to be deleted. Surely it's in the public interest to make this information available? They are nuisance calls, plain and simple.

I've been called several times over the years by DeVere, as have many ex-pat colleagues. None of these contacts have been invited, and none of the services required. When I last had a call from one, I just quietly put the phone on the desk then went to lunch. Not sure how long the salesperson prattled on for in my absence but they'd gone by the time I returned and no one has rung back since.
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Old 30.12.2014, 17:12
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Re: deVere European Communications Centre

You're perfectly allowed to say that they make unsolicited calls and cause a nuisance. Allegations of criminal activity tends to make them quite tetchy however.

My strategy is, therefore, to advise people not to bother with investment advice from people who suppress negative discussion about them. I mean, you'd almost think they had something to hide!
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Re: Dealing with financial services "cold callers"

They're still using the same number (+41435507307) to call from Spain. It seems there must be different groups at De-Ve-re because I thought I was on a do-not-call list. I seem to have been promised to be taken off the call list in my regular, unsolicited phone call.
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