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Old 11.11.2013, 04:45
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Exporting Japanese Pension (non-Japanese)

Hi,

This is a toughie - any help would be greatly appreciated.

Japan and Switzerland recently entered into a Social Security Agreement which covers totalization of pension contributions. Essentially it seems that you can 'export' your benefits from one country to another.

The thing is: I'm British, not Japanese. I have lived in Tokyo for 8 years contributing to the pension scheme, and am now planning to move to Switzerland.

The saving grace may be this: I will be marrying a Japanese woman prior to leaving Japan.

So my question would be:
- Can a non-Japanese spouse of a Japanese national export his/her Japanese pension contributions to Switzerland upon relocation?

I'll be duly impressed if someone knows the answer to this offhand!

Thanks

James
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Re: Exporting Japanese Pension (non-Japanese)

Found this for you:

All foreign nationals who have been paying Pension Insurance and give up residence in Japan may apply for a Lump Sum Withdrawl Payment. *However, to be eligible, you must apply within two years of leaving Japan, not posses Japanese citizenship, have paid premiums for six months or more, not have a place of residence in Japan, and never have received pension benefits. As long as those qualifications are met, I don`t see a limit to the amount of time someone has spent in Japan before they become unable to get the money back!

As for Patryn`s comment, yup. Even if you paid into the system longer than three years, only a maximum of 3 years` payments are eligible for a refund.

For more information and to triple check, you could call the Pension Service directly at 0570-05-1165. (English OK)

Japanese Pension Service website:
http://www.nenkin.go.jp/n/www/english/detail.jsp?id=38
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Re: Exporting Japanese Pension (non-Japanese)

I'd be interested to know if you found an answer to this.
Some more information here but aimed more at Japanese
http://sjlife.exblog.jp/15553702/
Under the current Japanese rules if you have less than 25 years of contributions in the Japanese pension I think you don't receive anything. My understanding is you can count the years in the Swiss system and if both combined are more than 25years than Japan will pay the fraction of the pension. In the case of non-Japanese I'm not sure if you have to be residen in Japan to actually receive the payments.
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Re: Exporting Japanese Pension (non-Japanese)

Hi,

No solid answer as yet. I've been here for 7 years and can claim back the last 3 years worth of contribution from what I know. I was looking into using this to pay the missing part of my National Insurance contributions for the UK, which should hopefully be transferrable.

These things are shockingly opaque! I guess that's why lawyers earn so much money!
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