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Old 01.04.2014, 18:13
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Tax advice needed

It may seem a little late, since I think the deadline for paying tax was, well, yesterday, but better late than never ....

I worked as a babysitter last year part-time for a few months and received a salary certificate (Lohnausweis).
The net salary was below CHF5000.

Do I even need to do a tax return?
My husband works full time but is taxed at source so do we need to do a family tax return?

Any advice will be appreciated.
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Old 01.04.2014, 18:50
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Re: Tax advice needed

Depends if your joint income is over 120k
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Old 01.04.2014, 20:32
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Re: Tax advice needed

No chance of that - we only lived in Switzerland for 5 months during the 2013 year, (August-December).
Is the tax year the same as a calender year?
Are we fine with no return for 2013?

Answers are greatly appreciated
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Re: Tax advice needed

Your husband should have completed a form for the tax year, saying if his partner worked or not. And if this situation changes during the year he is supposed to complete the form again.

What you need to know initially is what he did. If he said you were working you probably were taxed too much. If not, you probably paid too little on tax.

Generally if the 2nd partner is earning less than 5k / year, it isn't worth working at all as the main income earner will pay more in tax.

Of course this is all dependant on how he earns. If you are working this year, see an accountant to work out whether you should bother, or whether you should be asking to be paid in cash.
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Old 01.04.2014, 23:10
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No chance of that - we only lived in Switzerland for 5 months during the 2013 year, (August-December).
Is the tax year the same as a calender year?
Are we fine with no return for 2013?

Answers are greatly appreciated
120k a year or 10k per month you have been here.
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Re: Tax advice needed

Also, if the canton knows you are a 2-income household, and your husband was taxed as 1-income expect a large tax bill. The deadline was not necessarily to pay tax, but to lodge the forms to register differences to take into account when calculating the final bill.
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Re: Tax advice needed

Hey there,

My understanding is that even if your husband only worked 5 months you may still be liable as you have to work out the figures on a pro rata basis for the few months.

In other words if the total salary for the 5 months was over 50,000ch (120k / 12 months x 5 mths) you may be liable.

However, my knowledge of the tax swiss system is very limited but I did read this before and know the same rules apply in many countries.

I recommend you call professional tax consultants for a definitive answer.

I can recommend Denise at Colfina

Best of luck
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Legally your employer is required to deduct the tax at source from your salary (assuming that you were also subject to tax at source, if no C permit). Technically your employer is liable for that and has to pay the part which he did not deduct from your salary, since he has to pay you the net amount.
How is the employer liable? Is that an opinion because if it is true Id like to see where that is written.
The employer will NOT be liable if the employee did not provide the correct info (ie wife is now working).
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How is the employer liable? Is that an opinion because if it is true Id like to see where that is written.
The employer will NOT be liable if the employee did not provide the correct info (ie wife is now working).
contact.trifft was saying that her employer is liable, not her husband's. As she's received a Lohnausweis that should show that various taxes and insurances have been deducted, providing a net salary figure which would be used on any tax form she might need to fill in.
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Re: Tax advice needed

Thank you all so much for your answers. Of course they lead to many more questions..
We do however still fall under (lucky us?) the 10k per month for the 5 months last year.
My husband is on the search for the form he filled in because we cannot remember whether he stated I was working or not. Who / where would he have sent this form to?
My employer did not deduct tax but did pay the AHV.
Should I just wait for the canton to send a bill??
I'd love to have a definitive plan of what to do now. Plan B is to ignore it, plan C is to get the tax consultant that was recommended.
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Re: Tax advice needed

I suggest you contact your cantonal tax office first. That's where your husband would send his form to I think and they should be able to advise you on what to do next. If they're anything like Fribourg's office, they'll be quite helpful and will even help you fill out any forms needed. And they're free. After all, they want to make sure people pay what taxes they owe so have every incentive to help you get it right.
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