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Impot a la source - Vaud

Hello guys

Some info: I live in Vaud and am a B permit holder.

I have just received my "Decompte final" for my tax returns and I am puzzled as I have no idea how the tax are calculated.

I can see the amount I pay for "impot a la source" since it's shown on my salary every month, so I can calculate the total for 2013.

What puzzles me is the amount (difference) they have to return to me at the end. How do they calculate the amount that I was "supposed" to pay?

They use the total that I paid minus the amount that I was "legally supposed" to pay and then you get the difference that you either receive, or have to pay back. Since it's tax return for impot a la source, it's mostly the amount they have to pay.

Is this amount taken from here? "Barème de l'impôt sur le revenu 2012- 2014" PDF file

So they do "My taxation at source total amount - Amount in the PDF above for my yearly salary" => amount to be returned to me?

Does anyone know what percentage, how can I calculate it or where can I find it to see how much I was supposed to actually pay at the end?

In the document they send by post office you just have the total you paid at source and a total you were supposed to pay. There's no explanation where this total comes from, how it's calculated, etc.

I am really curious as last year I had a smaller revenue and I received a whole lot more money back as tax returns. I know the tax increment with the revenue, but we're talking about an amount 4-5 times lower this year, not 1-2% lower.

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Old 26.08.2014, 19:43
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Re: Impot a la source - Vaud

Your employer calculates the tax and pays the tax to government. Your first stop is to ask your company.
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Re: Impot a la source - Vaud

Thank you for your reply.
I know the tax my employer uses and the total I pay for the state (with source taxation).

I just don't know how the state calculates the total amount of tax that i am supposed to pay.

I assume this total would be the estimate calculated here, for my city and legal status? http://www.estv2.admin.ch/f/dienstle...er/2013/vd.htm

I know it's not official but still, the difference even here is huge...
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Re: Impot a la source - Vaud

So why not use the tax simulator, print the results, and ask your employer about the difference?

If you think you are paying too much it is your employer who is responsible. We can't help you, and neither can the tax office.
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Re: Impot a la source - Vaud

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Thank you for your reply.
I know the tax my employer uses and the total I pay for the state (with source taxation).

I just don't know how the state calculates the total amount of tax that i am supposed to pay.

I assume this total would be the estimate calculated here, for my city and legal status? http://www.estv2.admin.ch/f/dienstle...er/2013/vd.htm

I know it's not official but still, the difference even here is huge...
None of your links apply to your situation.
As Sbinz said, ask your employer.

The first link (pdf) is for normal people (ie not a la source), and the second is the same.

Additionally, your "city" is irrelevant when you are a la source, at least in Vaud: I was told they calculate an average of the canton, and it's not based on your commune, as for "normal taxation".

So: the tax a la source thing is hard to know, usually the employer makes some "dark arts" calculations, and that's all. You have nothing to do and can hardly check.

BUT, if you want to be active, then it's possible to do a "declaration simplifiee", which is then using your a la source paid (total of the year) as a deduction. It's a double edge sword, meaning you can get something back, but you can also have to pay something.

The good news is that it's possible to know how much you'll pay if doing the "declaration simplifiee", and then it's only a matter of calculating of much you paid, and how much you will pay. The difference (positive= yeaaah, money back; negative: be quiet and move on, or pay more tax, un-yeaaah).

FYI the link was here, but it's expired as it's too late for 2013 and too early for 2014:
http://www.vd.ch/themes/etat-droit-f...ot-simplifiee/


Summary: don't bother with calculations of a la source, but prepare the "declaration simplifiee" and see how much you will pay/receive if applying.
If you don't want to bother then ignore the entire thing, and accept the "automatic system".

PS: professionals do charge a fortune for those advice
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http://www.vd.ch/themes/etat-droit-f...t-a-la-source/
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Re: Impot a la source - Vaud

actually I finaly understand.

So it seems the percentage is shown in the pdf "baremes 2013" for the source taxation. depending on my marital status (married or not ,with children or not) and depending on my total taxed income, I can calculate the percentage my employer should pay.

For tax returns if i have any deductions that were accepted or if the actual percentage should be lower than what my employer already deducted then I get a tax return.

Anyway the values seem to be more or less right, so they did their job properly this year

The more you earn, the more taxes you pay. Gotta love this system

Thank you all once again and have a nice day...
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