Go Back   English Forum Switzerland > Help & tips > Finance/banking/taxation  
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 25.02.2015, 17:32
Newbie
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Baden
Posts: 2
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
xylo has no particular reputation at present
self employed in UK, wor

Hello,

First of all I would like to apologies for my English. It is not my native language so please try to understand me.
I have a question regarding tax in situation if I am self employed in UK for whole year but additionally in the same tax year I have got some work in Switzerland from November 2014 till March2015. Here is little bit more about current situation:
In UK I am self-employed, to deal with accounts I use service of accounting company. Therefore they don’t provide any advise about double taxation between different countries.
Usually I pay myself salary on level 8-900 pounds per month. Rest is pay out in form of dividend, up to the level where the tax is not going above some limit. This is what I did for the last 1,5 year.
In November 2014 I start work in Switzerland. Therefore the local company hired and registered me here as regular employee. So at the same time I start pay local Swiss tax. It didn’t change anything from UK perspective. My English company still brings some monthly income however I stop pay out salary for there.
Now the question is, Do I have to inform HMRC about my additional source of income coming from Swizz job in the tax year 2014/2015 ? If so than how it has to be done ? Do I have to add amount of money after tax or before Swiss taxation ?
Or I don’t have to inform HMRC about income from Switzerland and just make separate tax calculation for UK and Swiss ? which as I believe more benefit for me ?

regards
Karl
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 25.02.2015, 17:42
fatmanfilms's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Verbier
Posts: 21,374
Groaned at 461 Times in 352 Posts
Thanked 23,091 Times in 11,824 Posts
fatmanfilms has a reputation beyond reputefatmanfilms has a reputation beyond reputefatmanfilms has a reputation beyond reputefatmanfilms has a reputation beyond reputefatmanfilms has a reputation beyond reputefatmanfilms has a reputation beyond repute
Re: self employed in UK, wor

Quote:
View Post
Hello,

First of all I would like to apologies for my English. It is not my native language so please try to understand me.
I have a question regarding tax in situation if I am self employed in UK for whole year but additionally in the same tax year I have got some work in Switzerland from November 2014 till March2015. Here is little bit more about current situation:
In UK I am self-employed, to deal with accounts I use service of accounting company. Therefore they don’t provide any advise about double taxation between different countries.
Usually I pay myself salary on level 8-900 pounds per month. Rest is pay out in form of dividend, up to the level where the tax is not going above some limit. This is what I did for the last 1,5 year.
In November 2014 I start work in Switzerland. Therefore the local company hired and registered me here as regular employee. So at the same time I start pay local Swiss tax. It didn’t change anything from UK perspective. My English company still brings some monthly income however I stop pay out salary for there.
Now the question is, Do I have to inform HMRC about my additional source of income coming from Swizz job in the tax year 2014/2015 ? If so than how it has to be done ? Do I have to add amount of money after tax or before Swiss taxation ?
Or I don’t have to inform HMRC about income from Switzerland and just make separate tax calculation for UK and Swiss ? which as I believe more benefit for me ?

regards
Karl
Assuming your still resident in the UK, you have to pay tax on your world wide income & capital gains unless your a Non Dom.

You need to pay tax on your gross Swiss income , pension payments can be deducted but not AHV payments. Any Swiss tax can be used to offset UK taxes.
When you fill in a tax return in the UK , you can show the income & taxes paid.

If however you have a full time contract of employment in CH, you are definitely non resident in the UK, you should inform the UK revenue if this is the case.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 25.02.2015, 17:56
Newbie
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Baden
Posts: 2
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
xylo has no particular reputation at present
Re: self employed in UK, wor

Wow thank you for quick response !

Yes I am still resident of UK. The work in Switzerland is just temporary.
What does it mean "Non Dom" ?
So basically all taxes which are not AHV I can offset on my UK's tax declaration but at the same time I have to add gross income to the overall calculation ?

regards
Karl
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 25.02.2015, 18:08
fatmanfilms's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Verbier
Posts: 21,374
Groaned at 461 Times in 352 Posts
Thanked 23,091 Times in 11,824 Posts
fatmanfilms has a reputation beyond reputefatmanfilms has a reputation beyond reputefatmanfilms has a reputation beyond reputefatmanfilms has a reputation beyond reputefatmanfilms has a reputation beyond reputefatmanfilms has a reputation beyond repute
Re: self employed in UK, wor

Quote:
View Post
Wow thank you for quick response !

Yes I am still resident of UK. The work in Switzerland is just temporary.
What does it mean "Non Dom" ?
So basically all taxes which are not AHV I can offset on my UK's tax declaration but at the same time I have to add gross income to the overall calculation ?

regards
Karl
https://www.gov.uk/tax-foreign-incom...iled-residents

just CH taxes can be offset against UK tax, your gross CH income needs to be declared, however 2nd Pillar pension is deductible against income.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 26.02.2015, 20:43
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Valais
Posts: 88
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanked 73 Times in 36 Posts
Potrzebie has become a little unpopular
Re: self employed in UK, wor

Quote:
View Post
Wow thank you for quick response !

Yes I am still resident of UK. The work in Switzerland is just temporary.
What does it mean "Non Dom" ?
So basically all taxes which are not AHV I can offset on my UK's tax declaration but at the same time I have to add gross income to the overall calculation ?

regards
Karl
You (or your tax preparer or software) fills out SA106 https://www.gov.uk/government/public...-foreign-sa106

There are special rules as to National Insurance contributions when you are resident in one country and work, or partly work, in another
https://www.gov.uk/national-insurance-if-you-go-abroad

On the other hand, social security (state pension) contributions and benefits can be "gamed" with a little knowledge and effort in many cases so that you get additional benefits at little cost.
Reply With Quote
Reply




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Self Employed v's Employed (UK) anno Finance/banking/taxation 2 08.01.2014 23:17
Self employed or not self employed, that is the question! PaulJarvis Employment 6 09.12.2013 20:56
UK self-employed working in Geneva-tax situation? adr26 Finance/banking/taxation 4 31.01.2013 10:29
Living in Switzerland & being self-employed with a UK Ltd otupman Business & entrepreneur 5 02.11.2011 20:19


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 19:57.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2023, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
LinkBacks Enabled by vBSEO 3.1.0