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Tax refund for shopping in DE, FR

Dear All

I have a question regarding Tax Refund.

I will do shopping in Germany often to take advantage of tax refund.
Please could you advise as detail as possible? I used to live in FR and DE border town and I saw the long queue at the border customs, and heard time to time some limitation etc…so here are some questions

1:
For Meat, milk products etc..anything might be limited for one time shopping…how does it work? And if the recepit shows total 80EUR z.b showing meat and milks, household goods and all that in one recepit…how they are going to check the limited products? if the said products are more than the limit…what happenes (z.b 3kg Chiken on the receipt) , do you have anyway to do wisely?
Please note that I have seen some people buying things separately in order to receive two receipt…I saw this act time to time in ALDI, BAUHAUS in Germany etc…and they were Swiss….I think there must be some trick…

2:
I heard an item more than 200EUR will be taxed in CH etc…how does it work? If I bought, let's say a 400 EUR bed from IKEA in DE.

3:
I heard I have to claim within 6months to get tax refund…though I would try to do the same day of the shopping….but this rule…if I had to go back to the customs another day, what would happen? (My IKEA BED is already at home) and if they want to see the actual goods or foods??

4:
I have my German bank account…and I do use the maestro card…payment done by my German konto…can CH customs do tax refund on this? …or it is always wise to buy in cash?


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Old 22.01.2016, 13:13
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Re: Tax refund for shopping in DE, FR

All the information you need is on the customs website, in English. There's even an app for it.

1. If you bring in more than the duty free allowance and don't declare it and are caught, then this is smuggling. Smuggling (even getting two receipts and showing one) will, if you get caught, land you in a lot of trouble.
If you do declare it, you must pay duty on the amount above the limit.

2. See my opening sentence. The limit is 300CHF (not €200)

3. You should for least hassle declare on the day.

4. Customs do not process any refund. The shop you buy from does that. If they want to.
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Re: Tax refund for shopping in DE, FR

hi


Thanks!
I willm check the website and app then but you may be able to answer quick on this below


1. If you bring in more than the duty free allowance and don't declare it and are caught, then this is smuggling. Smuggling (even getting two receipts and showing one) will, if you get caught, land you in a lot of trouble.
If you do declare it, you must pay duty on the amount above the limit.


Are you talking abozut the duty allowance per day?
for example today I buy 10 x milk (declare today) and tomorrow 10 x milk(declare tomorrow)

2. See my opening sentence. The limit is 300CHF (not €200)
I am sorry but I can not find the opening sentence? so any items over 300CHF will also be taxed in Switzerland at the customs.

3. You should for least hassle declare on the day.
I know and I will....
but if one buys food today therafter have a dinner in DE town until 10PM, go home ....no customs at the border...there are loads of people falling into the scenario...how does it work then ?
technically smugglers....yet the customs given ppl to declare within certain period...it somehow does not make sense....

4. Customs do not process any refund. The shop you buy from does that. If they want to.
so people at the border after the shopping ...what are they doing? I thought they are getting VAT back at the place...and end of the year the shops will finalize with the customs...anyway I appreciate your advise.


so Thanks !!
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Re: Tax refund for shopping in DE, FR

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All the information you need is on the customs website, in English. There's even an app for it.


There are declaration forms at every crossing. You can declare there. Makes perfect sense. Everything else (and probably the above) is already covered in existing threads.
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Re: Tax refund for shopping in DE, FR

Thanks again!


Yes I know where to go, I actually have a studio in DE and passing everyday.
could you possibly send me the link?


But does the website answer this ?


3. You should for least hassle declare on the day.
I know and I will....
but if one buys food today therafter have a dinner in DE town until 10PM, go home ....no customs at the border...there are loads of people falling into the scenario...how does it work then ?
technically smugglers....yet the customs given ppl to declare within certain period...it somehow does not make sense....


my main point on this forum for me is to get someone's actual knowledge quickly...also I found some governmental organization's websites are not user freindly....
so it would be great if you can just answer this question as you seem to know...or if someone knows ....please let me know...or I just go there to ask sorry to bother but if only you know...if you are not sure...it is fine I just go there tomorrow...
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Old 22.01.2016, 15:17
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Re: Tax refund for shopping in DE, FR

Why don´t you do a search here? Or call the Customs Office
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Re: Tax refund for shopping in DE, FR

that is my friend said too....so not so much direct answers from my thread then...ok I will call them and I do check the past thread.


Thanks for your time anyway!
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Re: Tax refund for shopping in DE, FR

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Thanks again!


Yes I know where to go, I actually have a studio in DE and passing everyday.
could you possibly send me the link?


But does the website answer this ?


3. You should for least hassle declare on the day.
I know and I will....
but if one buys food today therafter have a dinner in DE town until 10PM, go home ....no customs at the border...there are loads of people falling into the scenario...how does it work then ?
technically smugglers....yet the customs given ppl to declare within certain period...it somehow does not make sense....


my main point on this forum for me is to get someone's actual knowledge quickly...also I found some governmental organization's websites are not user freindly....
so it would be great if you can just answer this question as you seem to know...or if someone knows ....please let me know...or I just go there to ask sorry to bother but if only you know...if you are not sure...it is fine I just go there tomorrow...
About "until 10PM, go home ....no customs at the border" if you think the Customs people stop work at 10 pm you are in for a shock; also do not forget that the Customs do not only work at the border - they can stop and search you in Switzerland many Km from the border.
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Re: Tax refund for shopping in DE, FR

I know they do check, I pass Riehen granze everyday...
the point is that sometimes I do not see them at all....in the evening like 10 0r 11pm ...my question is how people can declare at 10pm if there is nobody...
If the customs are 24/7 and always there for us, then my questions is done.
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Re: Tax refund for shopping in DE, FR

A few things are important -
1) The 300 CHF import limit - this is per person per trip. I.e., if your total shopping is >300CHF when crossing the border, you need to declare and pay Swiss VAT (possibly even customs charge, depending on the items). The value of a single item does not matter. Of course, if an item is > 300 CHF, you need to declare it anyway. In such case, best to do it as a separate trip so that you don't pay VAT on all other items from the same trip too.
2) Limits on importation of specific products - i.e., alcohol, meat, etc. These do count in the 300 CHF limit as well as separate limits. I.e., if you have too much meat and spend < 300 CHF, you still need to declare and pay duty. Above 300 CHF of course as well.
3) You mention you have apartment in Germany. Where is your residence? Do you have a Swiss permit other than G? If yes, you can claim German VAT back. If you have G-permit or no Swiss permit, you can't really claim German VAT back (only maybe if you have a non-EU passport).
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Re: Tax refund for shopping in DE, FR

Oh, one more thing -
The time limit of x-months (3/6?) is for exportation. I.e., within this time frame the goods must be exported from Germany to Switzerland in order to qualify for the refund.
At the time of exporting, the form must be stamped. That means, you must have the goods with you when asking for the stamp. Once it left Germany, you cannot come back with the form.
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I know they do check, I pass Riehen granze everyday...
the point is that sometimes I do not see them at all....in the evening like 10 0r 11pm ...my question is how people can declare at 10pm if there is nobody...
If the customs are 24/7 and always there for us, then my questions is done.
You really need to search more. All your questions have been answered already on EF alone, let alone the rest of the web.

German border guards (who stamp VAT forms and receipts) are present 24 hours at Autobahn crossings. If you're headed back to Basel late at night, just use the Autobahn.

Swiss border guards, on the other hand, work about the same hours as the Swiss Air Force. But that's irrelevant to German VAT refunds. Their absence does not relieve you of the obligation to pay VAT where applicable, however.
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I know they do check, I pass Riehen granze everyday...
the point is that sometimes I do not see them at all....in the evening like 10 0r 11pm ...my question is how people can declare at 10pm if there is nobody...
If the customs are 24/7 and always there for us, then my questions is done.


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There are declaration forms at every crossing. You can declare there. Makes perfect sense. Everything else (and probably the above) is already covered in existing threads.


PS: The CHF 300 limit is not per item, it is for the total values after deducting any foreign tax of all the goods you bring in in a given day.

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Yes I know where to go, I actually have a studio in DE and passing everyday.
could you possibly send me the link?...
Here's that link
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Re: Tax refund for shopping in DE, FR

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PS: The CHF 300 limit is not per item, it is for the net of tax values of all the goods you bring in in a given day.

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