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Old 15.02.2018, 16:58
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Re: DeVere group cold calling again.

Yea, one of those wanted to connect on Linked-In.... do they really think we are that stupid?

(probably yes)
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Old 15.02.2018, 17:25
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Yea, one of those wanted to connect on Linked-In.... do they really think we are that stupid?

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There is one guy in our office who is proud of the size of his LinkedIn network. He says he has over 1600 connections and is adding people every day.
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Old 15.02.2018, 17:38
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There is one guy in our office who is proud of the size of his LinkedIn network. He says he has over 1600 connections and is adding people every day.
He probably wants to be an "influencer", just needs a couple of thousand more....
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Re: DeVere group cold calling again.

deVere Group gets a mention in a recent publication, "Millionaire Expat", (enter company name in search box at left-hand side if page about deVere Group doesn't show automatically). The author asks "what type of person would sell such schemes?" and concludes that it's either 1. someone with an extremely low level of financial education who doesn't understand what they're selling or 2. a psychopath or Machiavellian who might understand the products but makes them sound amazing so that they can earn a high commission; they might know that the products can ruin people's futures but simply don't care.

I reckon that anyone who stays in the business for a significant amount of time would fall into the latter category.
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Old 19.02.2018, 23:29
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Re: DeVere group cold calling again.

United Capital Group
VBM Capital Partners

two more to stay away from:

https://luxtimes.lu/luxembourg/32870...known-entities
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Re: DeVere group cold calling again.

These guys were a real pain in the backside, I'd usually just let them schedule a date a few months in the future and then keep cancelling and rescheduling it over email...eventually they stopped trying.

I blocked the numerous numbers they'd called me from, and told our reception to stop transferring their calls (I work for one of the Big4 and I'm sure they've got a steady list of expats they target one by one).

On a similar topic, does cold calling actually even work for regular people anymore? Can't remember the last time (if ever) that I paid attention or entertained whoever called and whatever was being offered.

See also - the health insurance cold callers!
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Old 20.02.2018, 14:17
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On a similar topic, does cold calling actually even work for regular people anymore? Can't remember the last time (if ever) that I paid attention or entertained whoever called and whatever was being offered.

See also - the health insurance cold callers!
Paying a 2000 calorie a day inexperienced human will have a low hit rate but much like those charity collecting in the street they sometimes hit big and the measly monthly wages for the cold call cannon fodder work out a low expense for the company. I'd imagine churn of such callers is super high. They're super pushy because they're super hungry and their bosses are sociopaths. "Second prize is a set of steak knives."


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I blocked the numerous numbers they'd called me from, and told our reception to stop transferring their calls (I work for one of the Big4 and I'm sure they've got a steady list of expats they target one by one).
If your reception does still transfer them, perhaps you should ask reception who they said they were. They may blag their way past the reception.
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Old 20.02.2018, 14:46
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On a similar topic, does cold calling actually even work for regular people anymore? Can't remember the last time (if ever) that I paid attention or entertained whoever called and whatever was being offered.
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You must have got lucky.

I get cold callers all the time in the office, offering me everything from website design to event catering. Also people asking for sponsorship money for sports events and such.

And I'm not even in a position to decide such things.

The phone switchboard have instructions to block people like that, but they are getting smarter all the time in finding excuses, claiming we had previous conversations but that they lost my number, things like that.
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If your reception does still transfer them, perhaps you should ask reception who they said they were. They may blag their way past the reception.
They can still get through you're right, as the reception just transfer directly to mobile without asking us first...they blag heavily as you say and claim they've had previous conversations etc.

I'm happy that the DeVere SA group seems to have disappeared though!
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Re: DeVere group cold calling again.

As if by magic and after expressing that I hardly get cold called anymore, I've seen 4 missed calls from the Guardian guys just now...

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As if by magic and after expressing that I hardly get cold called anymore, I've seen 4 missed calls from the Guardian guys just now...

That was me trying to flog you a pub quiz.
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That was me trying to flog you a pub quiz.
Ah great...well in that case, let's pencil in 2pm on August 29th.




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Re: DeVere group cold calling again.

An excellent video explaining how "investing" through our friends produces a nice fat layer cake of fees that goes to feed… well, I'm sure you can guess.

Expat Pension Alert - Hidden Fees Costing Global Pensioners Millions!
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Re: DeVere group cold calling again.

Very good video. Youtube algorithm led straight on to an opportunity to invest 15 minutes in watching a film on the deVere Channel, all about Mr Nigel Green. I didn't have the stomach for more than a minute or so but it did seem to show nicely where some of the money might be going.
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