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Re: DeVere group cold calling again.

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Quote GDPR and tell them to delete your records
Have you actually tried this?

One tactic they (not DeVere, other twunts) use is "we see you registered but have not yet ..." implying that you've given permission already.
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Re: DeVere group cold calling again.

Yes and they replied they would do so. I don't profess to fully understanding GDPR and all its nuances but you can certainly give the instructions to delete all your data. Then how do they call you? (other than ignoring it, but aren't they effectively breaking the law then??).
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Re: DeVere group cold calling again.

Maybe let them talk to Lenny or some other chatbot like that. And post the transcript
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Re: DeVere group cold calling again.

Warning from a German law firm (which apparently specialises in banking and capital markets law) regarding particular companies. First link contains companies with names starting with "D" only.

Warnungen für Investoren und Anleger – D

Full alphabetical list of companies:

Warnungen
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Re: DeVere group cold calling again.

Hi the same has happened to me. I invested in the Strategic Growth Fund via a QROPs in 2011. Just read the JAMs final report published in July 2018 and only 10% of the money is likely to be returned.

I am interested and motivated to consider practical steps to higlight DeVeres behaviour, for example through FINMA, UK Pension Ombudsman etc. I am looking to connect with other like minded people.
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Re: DeVere group cold calling again.

I have attached a screen shot of my latest communication. Its brilliant.

My tactic when they call, if they want a chat, they need to take me out for drinks. Usually this ends the conversation, however, the latest one agreed. So true to my word I would find time to have a drink on them and listen to what they have to say.

After accepting, proposing dates and times and also being very clear on my view of the company, but I would be open minded. I heard nothing back. I then get the email attached a few weeks later. I am told how professional Alison is..."I know my own standards & values" & "clients who can vouch for my own integrity and what I stand for"

Sure enough I agree to meet, ask where works for her, and absolutely nothing back. So it seems this professional outfit cant even manage their diaries or potential clients when people do agree. They must be so robotic and hear no so many times, not marking it in the diary is a reflex

For unprofessional behavior to potential clients the tariff goes up. Lunch or dinner now if they want a chat
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Re: DeVere group cold calling again.

I've been getting calls recently (about once a week) from a UK number, each time its "Hi I'm Alex calling from XYZ, I've noticed in your profile that you're living in Switzerland" etc. The number keeps changing (first London, then Bristol) and so does the company name, but its the same guy's voice! A couple of times I tried to ask why he was calling - he hung up directly. Once I answered the call without saying anything - no sound on the other side. Getting rather annoying to have to screen all UK calls (and keep adding numbers to the blocked list).
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Re: DeVere group cold calling again.

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I've noticed in your profile that you're living in Switzerland"
So why did you leave your phone number in your profile then?
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Old 10.08.2018, 09:59
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Re: DeVere group cold calling again.

Every time anyone receives a call from de vere, or guardian wealth management, just ask them for their FINMA registration number for their Swiss registered entity.

Don’t be too disappointed if they take a while to get back to you with it.
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Re: DeVere group cold calling again.

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I have attached a screen shot of my latest communication. Its brilliant.
Apart from any other issues, such appalling attention to detail in grammar and spelling while communicating with a client is just what I'm looking for in a financial adviser...
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I have attached a screen shot of my latest communication. Its brilliant.

My tactic when they call, if they want a chat, they need to take me out for drinks. Usually this ends the conversation, however, the latest one agreed. So true to my word I would find time to have a drink on them and listen to what they have to say.

After accepting, proposing dates and times and also being very clear on my view of the company, but I would be open minded. I heard nothing back. I then get the email attached a few weeks later. I am told how professional Alison is..."I know my own standards & values" & "clients who can vouch for my own integrity and what I stand for"

Sure enough I agree to meet, ask where works for her, and absolutely nothing back. So it seems this professional outfit cant even manage their diaries or potential clients when people do agree. They must be so robotic and hear no so many times, not marking it in the diary is a reflex

For unprofessional behavior to potential clients the tariff goes up. Lunch or dinner now if they want a chat
If it's the same person, she created a profile on ESF 11 years ago (https://www.englishforum.ch/members/...n-drewell.html) and has a background in selling sportswear (https://graduates.name/country-ch-55#, https://graduates.name/country-ch-55#id37898701).
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Re: DeVere group cold calling again.

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So why did you leave your phone number in your profile then?

I have no idea which profile the caller is referring to...
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Re: DeVere group cold calling again.

2013: Up to 50m of deVere client money trapped

2018: ‘Belvedere’ update: The Strategic Growth Fund has no recoverable assets
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Re: DeVere group cold calling again.

Funny how history seems to have repeated itself. deVere's predecessor company Britex also appears to have put clients' money into schemes that turned out to be less than profitable for the clients.

Imperial's UK arm collapses
"One offshore broker, Britex, estimated to have placed $50m (£34m) of clients' money in these schemes..."
Convicted fraudster ordered to pay £1.5m
Downfall of Britain's Madoff: Smooth-talking fraudster who duped the rich and famous is jailed for £150m Ponzi scheme
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Re: DeVere group cold calling again.

Some recent reviews.

Devere Group stole my family's money

Totally untrustworthorthy etc

Disgusting thieves

And one from Switzerland:

QROPS pension ... lost £150,000
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Re: DeVere group cold calling again.

Just wondering how they got my private cell phone number (the Guardian guys).... It is an unlisted number. Anyway, blocked now
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Re: DeVere group cold calling again.

Just saw this spam on reddit - Devere crypto

Obviously they need to move to a new platform to fleece the younger folks.

Twatwaffles, all of them.
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Re: DeVere group cold calling again.

Seems they scan LinkedIn for new arrivals in Switzerland.

I had a LinkedIn request, email to my work email, and when they couldn’t get my work number they phoned someone else on my team to try to get to me.
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Re: DeVere group cold calling again.

Friendly advice - I know the industry well. DeVere and all the others (Guardian, Belgravia, Swiss Global, Alpha Wealth) are as bad each other

Trails, upfront Commission on bond, Toxic structured notes (masked to look simple and great - they pay Commission!)

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Friendly advice - I know the industry well. DeVere and all the others (Guardian, Belgravia, Swiss Global, Alpha Wealth) are as bad each other

Trails, upfront Commission on bond, Toxic structured notes (masked to look simple and great - they pay Commission!)
Don't forget the 3a advice and 2nd pillar... anybody signing up to a 20 year plan should have alarm bells ringing already
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