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End of the VAT-free exemption

From today's SwissInfo, "All Swiss Amazon purchases to be subjected to VAT", article here:

http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/foreign-...o-vat/42482680


"The Swiss parliament has officially approved reforms to the country’s value-added tax (VAT) regime that would oblige overseas firms to impose VAT on all purchases and services. The goal is to protect Swiss firms from lower-priced competitors abroad.

Currently, online purchases from abroad that attract less than CHF5 ($5.15) in VAT are exempt. This translates into an upper limit of CHF200 worth of books or CHF62.50 of goods that don’t benefit from a favourable tax status. "

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This could be the straw that breaks the camel's back and sends me scuttling back homewards. My weekly book fix is what keeps me sane.

(No, I am not undercutting the poor Swiss bookseller. The books I buy are generally not available in Switzerland.)

I wouldn't grumble about paying just VAT, but it's the administrative charges that Swiss Post tacks on when VAT is due that hurts.
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Old 29.09.2016, 17:13
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Kindle??
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Re: End of the VAT-free exemption

Would think they will go to a Bikester type arrangement where they ship to CH in bulk, clear in one go and split for onward shipment.

Seems to work fine for Bikester anyway.
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Re: End of the VAT-free exemption

Whoa, terrible terrible news. No more cheap Chinese crap for a few bucks incl shipping? Or is it just books and Amazon?
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Kindle??
Luddite.



Curling up with an e-reader just isn't the same as curling up with a good book.
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Luddite.



Curling up with an e-reader just isn't the same as curling up with a good book.
Less heavy, backlit and easier to read. You should try it.
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Re: End of the VAT-free exemption

what is the timeline?
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Old 29.09.2016, 17:22
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Luddite.



Curling up with an e-reader just isn't the same as curling up with a good book.
My understanding of 'Luddite' is that it is you who should be smashing Kindles, not me suggesting them...
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My understanding of 'Luddite' is that it is you who should be smashing Kindles, not me suggesting them...
I think she was referring to herself!
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My understanding of 'Luddite' is that it is you who should be smashing Kindles, not me suggesting them...
No, I'm the Luddite.

Resisted the new-fangled technology for as long as I could but eventually gave in and tried the Kindle. Spent a fortune on books, lost them all when I let the battery run out and it would no longer re-boot.

Got angry and threw the damned thing against the wall.


And went back to my beloved books.


Reading off a screen is for work. Books are for leisure. And as far as I'm concerned, never the twain shall meet.
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No, I'm the Luddite.

Resisted the new-fangled technology for as long as I could but eventually gave in and tried the Kindle. Spent a fortune on books, lost them all when I let the battery run out and it would no longer re-boot.

Got angry and threw the damned thing against the wall.


And went back to my beloved books.


Reading off a screen is for work. Books are for leisure. And as far as I'm concerned, never the twain shall meet.
Erm... they aren't lost. Go into your Kindle account, associate a new device and download them to that. There is even a Kindle app for your tablet that you can use.
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No,

I'm the Luddite.

Resisted the new-fangled technology for as long as I could but eventually gave in and tried the Kindle. Spent a fortune on books, lost them all when I let the battery run out and it would no longer re-boot.

Got angry and threw the damned thing against the wall.


And went back to my beloved books.


Reading off a screen is for work. Books are for leisure. And as far as I'm concerned, never the twain shall meet.

E-readers also have the highly annoying habit of their battery dying when one reaches the most important/interesting parts of a book. Thus mine's my emergency go-to only. Also, they don't smell as nice as very old and very new books.
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Re: End of the VAT-free exemption

The duty on my recent orders of non-books from Amazon was taken cared of by Amazon - they make an estimate, charge the full amount (less foreign VAT, plus Swiss duty and VAT), and refund if the actual duty was less. No Swiss-Post per-packet inspection fee etc. Hopefully this works in the same way for books.
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Old 29.09.2016, 17:42
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Re: End of the VAT-free exemption

The news says: "all firms with turnover of over CHF100,000 will be obliged to impose Swiss VAT for Swiss customers". That's a key part I think. If that's so, then it doesn't look so bad to me now. Only big guys like Amazon will be affected and the admin burden will be put on them, not on you.

Amazon already today deals very well with Swiss customs on >62.50 CHF purchases - asks to prepay the Swiss VAT in these cases and relieves you from the outrageous admin fees of Swiss post. So only thing changing for Amazon would be that they'll do it for all purchases.
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what is the timeline?
According to the article, "A date for the law to come into force still has to be announced. "

Start shopping now!
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According to the article, "A date for the law to come into force still has to be announced. "

Start shopping now!
This thread makes me think - is bookdepository really better than amzon or are they similar (especially regarding VAT handling, shipping costs and payment options)?

Throwing billigbuch in this thread - it can help finding some of the cheaper online sources for books in CH. I don't think they include bookdepository in the price comparison lists though

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Book Depository is owned by Amazon. They're pretty similar in pricing now.
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Curling up with an e-reader just isn't the same as curling up with a good book.
Similar to the difference to curling up with an e-dildo and a good bloke then !!
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Kindle??
Exactly! I have not bought a physical book in years. And I also have plenty of shelf space
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Re: End of the VAT-free exemption

The main reason I like shopping on Amazon is because they handle the insane handling fees for tuppence. My low value good costing just 8% more still make it far more favourable to buying a lot of goods here.

Before I get slated, I earn in GBP so it helps me save currency conversion costs as well as being cheaper on the whole
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