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TIN Tax Identification Number

Hello, I am swiss and I work sometimes in London. HSBC UK is asking me for my TIN number. I thought it was my personal tax identification number but HSBC doesn't accept it... any idea ? I called the tax services at the state Valais, and without surprise, they have no idea and never heard about it ... Thanks a lot for your help.
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Old 04.12.2016, 19:29
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Re: TIN Tax Identification Number

TIN is a US thing, for people who don't have a SSN.

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Re: TIN Tax Identification Number

I suppose you are still resident in Switzerland, if so, try with your "numéro AVS", it worked for me. Obviously if you are UK resident, they want your NI number.
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Re: TIN Tax Identification Number

Ok ! thanks for the replies, I will try to provide the AVS number ... Thanks a lot
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Ok ! thanks for the replies, I will try to provide the AVS number ... Thanks a lot
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Re: TIN Tax Identification Number

I was asked for that too by Barclays. I told them that as I was non UK resident for tax purposes I didn't have one. I gave them my Swiss AVS number and my UK national insurance number from way back and that seemed to satisfy them.

https://www.oecd.org/tax/automatic-e...ers/UK-TIN.pdf
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I'm self employed here so I have a company ID and I'm employed in Visual Effects Companies in London for short term contracts so I have a National Insurance Number... I will try to provide the AVS, the Company ID and the UK national Insurance ... I wish they will be happy with that ... It was so hard to find a bank that would like to open an account to a swiss resident in july 2015 I don't want them to close my account ^^

Inbetween I've fund this https://www.oecd.org/tax/automatic-e...erland-TIN.pdf

All the best

thank you Belgianmum for pointing me on this web address ^^

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Re: TIN Tax Identification Number

Just encountered this question and can confirm that according to this https://www.oecd.org/tax/automatic-e...erland-TIN.pdf for Swiss residents, it's your AHV/VS number.
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Re: TIN Tax Identification Number

I have had to go through this with HSBC recently and its annoyed me quite a lot. The first number I gave them I was told it is the wrong number format. So I asked which format they need, this may help me to find it, or if they know the Swiss name for it.... Of course they dont!!

Any way, if you provide your AHV number for the personal TIN number this seems to be valid

https://www.oecd.org/tax/automatic-e...erland-TIN.pdf

Page 4. I actually sent this document and the AHV card with the form to HSBC
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Re: TIN Tax Identification Number

Correct. Since January 1st 2017 the AHV-13 (the "new" format with 13-digits. It can also be found on your health insurance card) act as the TIN in Switzerland.

It is defined in Art. 2 Abs. 1 Lit. f of the AIAG (Federal act on automatic exchange of tax information)
https://www.admin.ch/opc/de/classifi...665/index.html
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Re: TIN Tax Identification Number

Yeah, we had fun and games with that one - they finally accepted out Swiss tax references.
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