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ChrisNeedsToKnow 25.05.2017 22:48

Transferwise Borderless account
 
I am usually a big fan of Currencyfair over Transferwise, but now the latter guys might be on to something big:

Transferwise now offers a "borderless account". It means you receive individual EU, UK and US bank account details, and can use them just like a personal account.

Apparently the same is about to be introduced for Switzerland.

If this happens, it's quite a solution for lots of scenarios. This account can remain open even after leaving Switzerland, and everyone who's not resident in Switzerland can equally open one.

Obviously it probably won't be good to park our millions, but it should allow normal transactions, like receiving occasional payments or, in some years, a possible pension.

Just thought I´ll give a heads up on the availability on the product this far.

martin959 25.05.2017 23:51

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But you can use Transferwise normally in Switzerland, right? From a bank acc in uk to one in Switzerland :rolleyes:

ruckus 26.05.2017 10:18

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thanks ChrisNeedsToKnow, that would be very handy

Enohzee 26.05.2017 10:31

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It looks good. I don't have a use for it at the moment, having a Swiss account and a UK account, however it would be very interesting if they launched a debit card with it (to withdraw cash and make payments in shops etc.) - you'd always get the best exchange rate for your holidays :)

fatmanfilms 26.05.2017 12:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisNeedsToKnow (Post 2791244)
I am usually a big fan of Currencyfair over Transferwise, but now the latter guys might be on to something big:

Transferwise now offers a "borderless account". It means you receive individual EU, UK and US bank account details, and can use them just like a personal account.

Apparently the same is about to be introduced for Switzerland.

If this happens, it's quite a solution for lots of scenarios. This account can remain open even after leaving Switzerland, and everyone who's not resident in Switzerland can equally open one.

Obviously it probably won't be good to park our millions, but it should allow normal transactions, like receiving occasional payments or, in some years, a possible pension.

Just thought I´ll give a heads up on the availability on the product this far.

I have just set up & been verified. I don't seem to have an account as such, you nominate where the money goes to. I don't see it being as much use as you have to email request money unless I have not understood so more like PayPal

bill_door 26.05.2017 17:18

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Originally Posted by fatmanfilms (Post 2791380)
I have just set up & been verified. I don't seem to have an account as such, you nominate where the money goes to. I don't see it being as much use as you have to email request money unless I have not understood so more like PayPal




Four figure cash transfers at effectively spot with minimal fees is the big advantage. up to now i can't see myself transferring 5 figures using this even between my own set up accounts and previously tested.

what OP mentions is more US centric. allowing US residents to have EU/UK IBANs and allow them to easily transfer money to themselves or then third parties in EU/UK leveraging the IBAN ssytem.

when the reverse is available where I get a US account and can use ACH to transfer to my US brokers then there might be some potential savings to be made.

fatmanfilms 26.05.2017 17:23

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Originally Posted by bill_door (Post 2791478)


what OP mentions is more US centric. allowing US residents to have EU/UK IBANs and allow them to easily transfer money to themselves or then third parties in EU/UK leveraging the IBAN ssytem.

They don't give you an account number with IBAN, this is my objection, they transfer to an existing account with an IBAN you already have.

bill_door 26.05.2017 19:09

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Originally Posted by fatmanfilms (Post 2791481)
They don't give you an account number with IBAN, this is my objection, they transfer to an existing account with an IBAN you already have.

yes that is current offering for everyone worldwide. as i understand it, the "borderless" account offering is a personalised account in the EU/UK with IBANs for US residents.

ChrisNeedsToKnow 26.05.2017 19:36

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Originally Posted by fatmanfilms (Post 2791481)
They don't give you an account number with IBAN, this is my objection, they transfer to an existing account with an IBAN you already have.

The latter was Transferwise's original value proposition.

The borderless account is a separate section on their website, and you do indeed receive individual account#s!

fatmanfilms 27.05.2017 10:04

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Originally Posted by ChrisNeedsToKnow (Post 2791514)
The latter was Transferwise's original value proposition.

The borderless account is a separate section on their website, and you do indeed receive individual account#s!

Well I have one & they just want to link to existing accounts.
So your saying you have a personal account no in £ & Euros?

ChrisNeedsToKnow 27.05.2017 11:32

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Yes, exactly that.

Iban for EUR, sort code & account for GBP and routing# and account# for USD in my name!

fatmanfilms 27.05.2017 11:36

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Originally Posted by ChrisNeedsToKnow (Post 2791632)
Yes, exactly that.

Iban for EUR, sort code & account for GBP and routing# and account# for USD in my name!

Thats odd, I added accounts in 4 currencies & that is mo only option.
Perhaps they are still checking documents although I had a mail confirming everything was completed.

ChrisNeedsToKnow 27.05.2017 11:39

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I'm out and about now, thus can't add screenshots, but it was easy to set up.

Only works for EUR, GBP and USD so far, but same strategy with CHF supposedly upcoming soon :)

bill_door 28.05.2017 10:01

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Originally Posted by fatmanfilms (Post 2791633)
Thats odd, I added accounts in 4 currencies & that is mo only option.
Perhaps they are still checking documents although I had a mail confirming everything was completed.


just created a US account from CH. follow this llink
https://transferwise.com/borderless?source=publicNavbar

not sure if it is strictly usable for personal transfers because the Account Holder is listed as "TWfamily name first names". Not sure if US Brokers will accept this as a personal transfer. Most reputable US brokers will not allow third party transfers, this is very much on the edge of that I think.

but something to test (c;

the FAQ:
https://transferwise.com/help/questi...pricing-limits

fatmanfilms 28.05.2017 18:24

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Originally Posted by ChrisNeedsToKnow (Post 2791635)
I'm out and about now, thus can't add screenshots, but it was easy to set up.

Only works for EUR, GBP and USD so far, but same strategy with CHF supposedly upcoming soon :)

OK it looks like we pay into TW's account my Euro ends 96 76, no doubt yours does too.

There is no depositor protection if any of the banks go bankrupt, so not covered by the 100k Euro EU depositor protection scheme.

ChrisNeedsToKnow 28.05.2017 19:42

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These are my details for EUR:
  • Bank code (SWIFT / BIC): DEKTDE7GXXX
  • IBAN: DE41 7001 1110 6050 0745 00
  • Account Holder: TW FamilyName FirstName
  • Bank Address: Deutsche Handelsbank Südliche Münchner Str. 2 Grünwald 82031 Deutschland
If anyone wants to transfer funds to above account: Feel free to do so ;)

About the "account holder" and "TW" in front of it. I guess it's a legal requirement, but I successfully transferred to accounts using totally wrong names (by accident). I guess it's not actively checked, unless a problem pops up. So I guess the "TW" can be omitted - but that's guesswork.

muze7 31.05.2017 13:06

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Chris, any idea how soon the proper CHF option will be set up? Thanks (I can only find the holding of chf option without its own bank account, so far).

ChrisNeedsToKnow 31.05.2017 16:54

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I wish i knew, but I'm not affiliated with those guys.

Eagerly waiting myself!

bill_door 01.06.2017 09:59

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Originally Posted by muze7 (Post 2793788)
Chris, any idea how soon the proper CHF option will be set up? Thanks (I can only find the holding of chf option without its own bank account, so far).


it is already there.

Log in. Select Borderless account, 'Activate' the CHF currency from the list.
Then Add CHF i.e. transfer/deposit them as in the attached image.

bill_door 01.06.2017 10:02

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Originally Posted by bill_door (Post 2791899)
not sure if it is strictly usable for personal transfers because the Account Holder is listed as "TWfamily name first names".
the FAQ:
https://transferwise.com/help/questi...pricing-limits


Looks like the "TW" has been dropped from my US account details. This could be good news.


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