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zeteo 04.07.2017 20:09

Swiss tax identification number
 
Hi everyone, I am italian living in Switzerland since 1 year, with regular job, rent contract, B permit.

I have been asked to self-declare on a form from the bank my Swiss Identification Number (NIF or TIN).
Reading some past threads it seems to be matching with the AVS number. As the information sources don't always seem to be too "confident", I am writing to ask if you could kindly confirm / not confirm if the N.AVS is definetely the Tax Identification number the the form is requiring.

My sources are:
https://www.englishforum.ch/permits-...itzerland.html
https://www.englishforum.ch/finance-...on-number.html

Many thanks in advance
zeteo88

DL21 04.07.2017 20:19

Re: Swiss tax identification number
 
i used the AVS number when my bank in malta asked me for this. i never heard back so i assume they were cool with that....

st2lemans 04.07.2017 20:27

Re: Swiss tax identification number
 
They are not the same.

Tom

DL21 04.07.2017 20:42

Re: Swiss tax identification number
 
indeed - but the format is different and the only format that matched what they were asking for was the AVS. i'm pretty sure they don't use it for anything anyway.

zeteo 04.07.2017 20:49

Re: Swiss tax identification number
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by st2lemans (Post 2812505)
They are not the same.

Tom


So, where can I find the Tax Identification Number? On which document?

DL21 04.07.2017 20:51

Re: Swiss tax identification number
 
its on your tax return. but i think you'll find they actually want your AVS number (on your medical insurance card).

chrissie7 04.07.2017 21:22

Re: Swiss tax identification number
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zeteo (Post 2812492)
Hi everyone, I am italian living in Switzerland since 1 year, with regular job, rent contract, B permit.

I have been asked to self-declare on a form from the bank my Swiss Identification Number (NIF or TIN).
Reading some past threads it seems to be matching with the AVS number. As the information sources don't always seem to be too "confident", I am writing to ask if you could kindly confirm / not confirm if the N.AVS is definetely the Tax Identification number the the form is requiring.

My sources are:
https://www.englishforum.ch/permits-...itzerland.html
https://www.englishforum.ch/finance-...on-number.html

Many thanks in advance
zeteo88


I gave my bank in the UK my AVS number, which they seemed happy with. They just want a number that identifies you as a resident and taxpayer in Switzerland.

aSwissInTheUS 04.07.2017 21:38

Re: Swiss tax identification number
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by st2lemans (Post 2812505)
They are not the same.

Tom

They are. From http://www.englishforum.ch/finance-b...ber-three.html

Quote:

Originally Posted by aSwissInTheUS (Post 2755986)
Since January 1st 2017 the AHV-13 (can also be found on your health insurance card) act as the TIN in Switzerland.

Defined in Art. 2 Abs. 1 Lit. f of the AIAG (Federal act on automatic exchange of tax information)
https://www.admin.ch/opc/de/classifi...665/index.html

https://steuerverwaltung.tg.ch/infor...mmer.html/4353

And here directly from the federal tax office:
Italian: https://www.estv.admin.ch/dam/estv/i...snummer_it.pdf
French: https://www.estv.admin.ch/dam/estv/f...snummer_fr.pdf
German: https://www.estv.admin.ch/dam/estv/d...snummer_de.pdf

Ciuccio 04.07.2017 21:56

Re: Swiss tax identification number
 
I was in a similar situation to yours. It is definitely the AVS number that they want.

mkhalid 10.01.2018 15:09

Re: Swiss tax identification number
 
What is this AVS number?

Is it English translation of AHV number?

I do have one AHV number. which i see on health insurance papers.

The same no. i find on the tax return!

DL21 10.01.2018 15:11

Re: Swiss tax identification number
 
Italian language version of it :)

Urs Max 10.01.2018 19:48

Re: Swiss tax identification number
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DL21 (Post 2894957)
Italian language version of it :)

Italian or French, actually.

Odile 10.01.2018 19:56

Re: Swiss tax identification number
 
The EU has TIN numbers- they do not exist in Switzerland. Try and explain that to the UK !?! such a pain- and we have to keep explaining again and again... grrr.

So now we send our NE tax number, with a note explaining re TIN not being valid- we still get documents back to re-do again...

Belgianmum 10.01.2018 20:05

Re: Swiss tax identification number
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Odile (Post 2895164)
The EU has TIN numbers- they do not exist in Switzerland. Try and explain that to the UK !?! such a pain- and we have to keep explaining again and again... grrr.

So now we send our NE tax number, with a note explaining re TIN not being valid- we still get documents back to re-do again...

We've never had a problem. They've always accepted the AVS number without any problem.

NotAllThere 10.01.2018 20:38

Re: Swiss tax identification number
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Odile (Post 2895164)
The EU has TIN numbers- they do not exist in Switzerland. Try and explain that to the UK !?! such a pain- and we have to keep explaining again and again... grrr.

So now we send our NE tax number, with a note explaining re TIN not being valid- we still get documents back to re-do again...

That's because you need to send in your AHV/AVS number as explained here: https://www.englishforum.ch/2812534-post8.html

CBGeneve 13.04.2019 12:06

Re: Swiss tax identification number
 
Information on what TIN numbers are and how to find it for individual countries can be found here.

http://www.oecd.org/tax/automatic-ex...ation-numbers/

LockSmith 07.11.2019 06:57

Re: Swiss tax identification number
 
And just in case @CBGeneve 's link ever breaks, it is summarised as:

The TIN or OASI Number for individuals is (depending on your language) [AHV-Versichertennummer; numéro d’assuré AVS; numero d’assicurato AVS]).

Quote:

It consists of an initial 3-digit country code
(Switzerland = 756), a 9-digit random number which provides a lifelong, unique and anonymous
identification to each person, and a final check digit. For better readability, each block is separated
from the other by a dot. The structure of the OASI Number can be modelled as follows:
756.1234.5678.97


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