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Swiss tax identification number

Hi everyone, I am italian living in Switzerland since 1 year, with regular job, rent contract, B permit.

I have been asked to self-declare on a form from the bank my Swiss Identification Number (NIF or TIN).
Reading some past threads it seems to be matching with the AVS number. As the information sources don't always seem to be too "confident", I am writing to ask if you could kindly confirm / not confirm if the N.AVS is definetely the Tax Identification number the the form is requiring.

My sources are:
https://www.englishforum.ch/permits-...itzerland.html
https://www.englishforum.ch/finance-...on-number.html

Many thanks in advance
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Re: Swiss tax identification number

i used the AVS number when my bank in malta asked me for this. i never heard back so i assume they were cool with that....
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Old 04.07.2017, 19:27
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Re: Swiss tax identification number

They are not the same.

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Re: Swiss tax identification number

indeed - but the format is different and the only format that matched what they were asking for was the AVS. i'm pretty sure they don't use it for anything anyway.
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So, where can I find the Tax Identification Number? On which document?
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Re: Swiss tax identification number

its on your tax return. but i think you'll find they actually want your AVS number (on your medical insurance card).
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Hi everyone, I am italian living in Switzerland since 1 year, with regular job, rent contract, B permit.

I have been asked to self-declare on a form from the bank my Swiss Identification Number (NIF or TIN).
Reading some past threads it seems to be matching with the AVS number. As the information sources don't always seem to be too "confident", I am writing to ask if you could kindly confirm / not confirm if the N.AVS is definetely the Tax Identification number the the form is requiring.

My sources are:
https://www.englishforum.ch/permits-...itzerland.html
https://www.englishforum.ch/finance-...on-number.html

Many thanks in advance
zeteo88

I gave my bank in the UK my AVS number, which they seemed happy with. They just want a number that identifies you as a resident and taxpayer in Switzerland.
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Old 04.07.2017, 20:38
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They are. From tax number? which of the three?

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Since January 1st 2017 the AHV-13 (can also be found on your health insurance card) act as the TIN in Switzerland.

Defined in Art. 2 Abs. 1 Lit. f of the AIAG (Federal act on automatic exchange of tax information)
https://www.admin.ch/opc/de/classifi...665/index.html

https://steuerverwaltung.tg.ch/infor...mmer.html/4353
And here directly from the federal tax office:
Italian: https://www.estv.admin.ch/dam/estv/i...snummer_it.pdf
French: https://www.estv.admin.ch/dam/estv/f...snummer_fr.pdf
German: https://www.estv.admin.ch/dam/estv/d...snummer_de.pdf
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Re: Swiss tax identification number

I was in a similar situation to yours. It is definitely the AVS number that they want.
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Re: Swiss tax identification number

What is this AVS number?

Is it English translation of AHV number?

I do have one AHV number. which i see on health insurance papers.

The same no. i find on the tax return!
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Re: Swiss tax identification number

Italian language version of it
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Italian language version of it
Italian or French, actually.
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Re: Swiss tax identification number

The EU has TIN numbers- they do not exist in Switzerland. Try and explain that to the UK !?! such a pain- and we have to keep explaining again and again... grrr.

So now we send our NE tax number, with a note explaining re TIN not being valid- we still get documents back to re-do again...
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The EU has TIN numbers- they do not exist in Switzerland. Try and explain that to the UK !?! such a pain- and we have to keep explaining again and again... grrr.

So now we send our NE tax number, with a note explaining re TIN not being valid- we still get documents back to re-do again...
We've never had a problem. They've always accepted the AVS number without any problem.
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Old 10.01.2018, 19:38
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The EU has TIN numbers- they do not exist in Switzerland. Try and explain that to the UK !?! such a pain- and we have to keep explaining again and again... grrr.

So now we send our NE tax number, with a note explaining re TIN not being valid- we still get documents back to re-do again...
That's because you need to send in your AHV/AVS number as explained here: https://www.englishforum.ch/2812534-post8.html
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Re: Swiss tax identification number

Information on what TIN numbers are and how to find it for individual countries can be found here.

http://www.oecd.org/tax/automatic-ex...ation-numbers/
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