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Can you say why?
Leaving Switzerland is an option for us, we have no strong ties here. I would really appreciate any arguments for and against.
I like it here.
Your life will be that of the lowest skum as a single person. Someone cleaning toilets will have a better life.
You do realise the cost of health insurance is ca 2500 a year with you paying the first 2500, potentially ove 10% of your income on medical cover that is required by law.
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Your life will be that of the lowest skum as a single person. Someone cleaning toilets will have a better life.
You do realise the cost of health insurance is ca 2500 a year with you paying the first 2500, potentially ove 10% of your income on medical cover that is required by law.
On this income, most years the full subsidy is granted, so health costs are the first 300, plus up to 700 in the 10% segment, so 1'000 per year in total, excluding dental.
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Old 27.08.2017, 16:00
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On this income, most years the full subsidy is granted, so health costs are the first 300, plus up to 700 in the 10% segment, so 1'000 per year in total, excluding dental.
That subside is classed as social benefits, which is bad news if you want a passport or a C permit, as you have shown yourself incapable of supporting yourself.
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That subside is classed as social benefits, which is bad news if you want a passport or a C permit, as you have shown yourself incapable of supporting yourself.
If it is classed as social benefits (often it is not) then it will be a problem for Ozweego or newcomers to Switzerland then, but not for me as I am on a C permit, with no intention of asking for a passport, despite having the required number of years residence (I even received a letter telling me I was eligible -
which I already knew).
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If it is classed as social benefits (often it is not) then it will be a problem for Ozweego or newcomers to Switzerland then, but not for me as I am on a C permit, with no intention of asking for a passport, despite having the required number of years residence (I even received a letter telling me I was eligible -
which I already knew).
It's social benefits, end of story....... you always have a weird take on benefits it would seem.

You joined in August 2017, claim to have been here for 10 years, yet info you give is inconsistent with that. Lie detector set to red alert
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It's social benefits, end of story....... you always have a weird take on benefits it would seem.

You joined in August 2017, claim to have been here for 10 years, yet info you give is inconsistent with that. Lie detector set to red alert
Joined recently, but a long time reader of the forum. No information is inconsistent with that! Where did you get that from?!
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Joined recently, but a long time reader of the forum. No information is inconsistent with that! Where did you get that from?!
Because from the naivete of your all posts, you are either a Troll or you are telling lies.

How is a guy on a tax deal going to be able to claim health insurance subsidies ?
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Joined recently, but a long time reader of the forum. No information is inconsistent with that! Where did you get that from?!
You talk a load of nonsense, looking at your red rep other people believe the same. Not given you any rep myself.
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Because from the naivete of your all posts, you are either a Troll or you are telling lies.

How is a guy on a tax deal going to be able to claim health insurance subsidies ?
Where did I ever say that that guy was going to claim subsidies?!
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Try reading post N° 82 real carefully, any big words you can look up in a dictionary
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No sir, 36k is the income of another fellow member on this thread. I don't think I could live comfortably with that amount of money, and I truly believe I can achieve more

you should be able to. to be honest, there's nothing really stopping you from moving here and doing just that. you don't need any special tax deal. if you want to live here, then just move and do it.
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Try reading post N° 82 real carefully, any big words you can look up in a dictionary
You have completely misunderstood the ongoing and developing thread as you were not present throughout. It is us that is on that income not the guy who wants to move here!!
I receive that health insurance subsidy. This is quite normal under 40'000 francs per annum! And I am on a C permit and have been here for more than 15 years.
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Old 27.08.2017, 17:26
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I receive that health insurance subsidy. This is quite normal under 40'000 francs per annum! And I am on a C permit and have been here for more than 15 years.
What is it, 10 years as you wrote earlier, 15 years now? Interesting though as IŽd assumed a C will not be given when you receive social subsidies.

PS: "You have completely misunderstood the ongoing and developing thread as you were not present throughout." How do you know Today only did not read the whole thread?
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What is it, 10 years as you wrote earlier, 15 years now? Interesting though as IŽd assumed a C will not be given when you receive social subsidies.
Where did I write 10?
No, I've been here for 15 years. The first 5 were on a B permit and I was still working. My income was higher. I switched after 5 years onto a C permit. I was not in receipt of the subsidy at the time of the switch. I receive the subsidy most years now.
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Re: Information on "fiscale deal"

@Roegner: I'm not saying you claimed it is impossible to live with 36k, but you said that living with 50k (taxes and rent already paid) equals being poor.


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To be fair some of them were not particularly sensible.


You might see good options online. When you show up to see them there will be 30 other people....

It will not be easy. The higher the budget the easier it will be. It gets easier at 2500+




You are 30 years old! Sorry but you are not going to spen the next 40+ years watching movies.

As was said banks are international. You don't need to live where your money is.

It sounds like you are burnt out.

If I were you, I would take a furnished sublet for 6 months before doing anything.
Ofc I am not gonna buy a place right away, I will definitely give it a try.

About boredom, can't see your point. It is not perfect and
There will be few things I may not like, but I'm not talking about secluding myself in Wengen. I've been to Lausanne twice this year and I didn't found it incredibly boring. Hell, I drove all the way to Lausanne for one of the few clubbing nights I indulge myself in!

Just for conversation purpose, where would you go in my position?

I don't see eye to eye with the ones that claim it doesn't matter where you live as long as you have money
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@Roegner: I'm not saying you claimed it is impossible to live with 36k, but you said that living with 50k (taxes and rent already paid) equals being poor.
Which it doesn't.
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Which it doesn't.
If you get subsidized on your health insurance you are considered to be poor in Switzerland. Otherwise you would not receive that subsidy
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If you get subsidized on your health insurance you are considered to be poor in Switzerland. Otherwise you would not receive that subsidy
I don't know if you do get a subsidy with 50'000 francs income a year as I don't make that much. You will have to check with the authorities or ask someone who makes that much. It will also depend on the situation.
I don't think that a single person who earns 50'000 francs a year is poor.
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Re: Information on "fiscale deal"

He's talking about having 100k per year! Not 30 or 50! He will not get subsidies. If he needs subsidies, he won't get a permit.

That's plenty for a single person.

Where would I go?

Not sure. I lived in Lausanne when I was in my 30s. I loved it. But I was married and working.

It's difficult to meet people in Switzerland, Lausanne included. If you are not working it could be even more difficult.

I'd first figure out what I wanted to do for the rest of my life. Then move there. Buy a company? Set up doggie pension? Buy a bar? Set up a charity? What do you want to do in a year after you are bored of not working?

24/7 is a lot of time. You're talking went clubbing in Lausanne for what? 5 hours a week (maybe). What are you going to do the rest of the time?

In the meantime, I'd place my money in Switzerland (though probably not all of it) then spend 3 months in different cities: Valencia, Buenos Aires, Brussels, London, Lausanne, etc...
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He's talking about having 100k per year! Not 30 or 50! He will not get subsidies. If he needs subsidies, he won't get a permit.

That's plenty for a single person.

Where would I go?

Not sure. I lived in Lausanne when I was in my 30s. I loved it. But I was married and working.

It's difficult to meet people in Switzerland, Lausanne included. If you are not working it could be even more difficult.

I'd first figure out what I wanted to do for the rest of my life. Then move there. Buy a company? Set up doggie pension? Buy a bar? Set up a charity? What do you want to do in a year after you are bored of not working?

24/7 is a lot of time. You're talking went clubbing in Lausanne for what? 5 hours a week (maybe). What are you going to do the rest of the time?

In the meantime, I'd place my money in Switzerland (though probably not all of it) then spend 3 months in different cities: Valencia, Buenos Aires, Brussels, London, Lausanne, etc...
The clubbing example was meant to show that Lausanne is not a small city with noting much to do.

I'm not going back to be an enterpreneur. I want to find a place to call home which is safer, cleaner and more stable than Italy. Not having Naples is a big plus.

I believe (and i mean no offense to anybody) that only... not very sensible people gets bored by having too much freetime. My father could've retired at 61, he kept working untill 65 cause he had neither the phisic (he has diabeth) or the mind to enjoy life fully. I want do to sports, i want to hike and cover every goddam inch of the alps and visit as many places as possible in the world. I want to do some charity by involving in first person (not raising funds etc, doing the actual work). But i need a place where i can nest and go back and live regular days (cause i don't have the money to do crazy stuff everyday aniway). Several people suggested me to don't settle anywhere and travel the world full time, but that's not a balanced life for me.

ANiway, i'm opening a new thread about where should i live in Switzerland. I think this thread has expired in its purpose.

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