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14.05.2018, 22:14
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is there anywhere collected already information about distributions on an annual basis for the T class shares. i'm doing my tax returns...
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14.05.2018, 22:28
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| | Re: Another fundsmith question | Quote: | |  | | | is there anywhere collected already information about distributions on an annual basis for the T class shares. i'm doing my tax returns... | | | | | It's on the website or hopefully in the photo below if it will fit. I class cut off! https://www.fundsmith.co.uk/fund-factsheet | This user would like to thank fatmanfilms for this useful post: | | 
14.05.2018, 23:13
| | Re: Another fundsmith question | Quote: | |  | | | | | | | | Tried finding the same for the EUR fund in the past , never did.
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14.05.2018, 23:31
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| | Re: Another fundsmith question | Quote: |  | | | Tried finding the same for the EUR fund in the past , never did. | | | | | On the Euro fun page, the info for UK taxpayers is provided, dates, distributions etc are shown so you can get the info required for CH https://www.fundsmith.co.uk/global/eu/documents | This user would like to thank fatmanfilms for this useful post: | | 
15.05.2018, 10:15
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| | Re: Another fundsmith question
If it is your Swiss tax return, you may find these here: https://www.ictax.admin.ch/extern/de.../ratelist/2017
Incidentally, I get a statement from my bank here which contains all the preparation for the tax returns. I simply have to include it with my tax return and transcribe 2 or 3 figures from it.
In the past, that has been accepted by the tax authorities here without amendment. But, I've just has a mail from them regarding the 2016 tax return, amending the values for 2 accumulating funds with what looks like an assumed 2.5% distribution, which makes these look rather expensive now. They quoted valuations from the above web site.
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15.05.2018, 12:50
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| | Re: Another fundsmith question
Yet another question. Has anyone tried to claim the management fees? IIRC, Fundsmith charges about 1% management fees. Arguably, you could deduct 1%... (ditto for OCF)
EDIT: it seems not https://www.steueramt.zh.ch/internet...tB-Nr-30-1.pdf | This user would like to thank Phil_MCR for this useful post: | | 
26.07.2018, 11:33
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| | Re: Another fundsmith question
adding facebook might have not been the best idea after all
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26.07.2018, 15:43
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| | Re: Another fundsmith question | Quote: | |  | | | adding facebook might have not been the best idea after all | | | | | It's ~4% of the portfolio, so a 20% price drop has a < 1% performance impact on the fund.
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26.07.2018, 15:56
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| | Re: Another fundsmith question | Quote: | |  | | | It's ~4% of the portfolio, so a 20% price drop has a < 1% performance impact on the fund. | | | | | 4% is IMHO waaaay to much for a single speculative stock in such a fund.
Nevertheless, the fund performs well, but as said before this is the first pick of Terry that I truly questioned....
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26.07.2018, 16:02
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| | Re: Another fundsmith question | Quote: | |  | | | 4% is IMHO waaaay to much for a single speculative stock in such a fund.
Nevertheless, the fund performs well, but as said before this is the first pick of Terry that I truly questioned.... | | | | | Well, FB has no debts and still grows at ~40% per year.
PM instead (also ~4% of the portfolio) has loads of debts and grows little. I am not sure which one is more speculative.
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26.07.2018, 16:06
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| | Re: Another fundsmith question | Quote: | |  | | | Well, FB has no debts and still grows at ~40% per year.
PM instead (also ~4% of the portfolio) has loads of debts and grows little. I am not sure which one is more speculative. | | | | |
BTW, PM has also dropped by ~30% in the last few months...
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26.07.2018, 17:31
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| | Re: Another fundsmith question | Quote: | |  | | | adding facebook might have not been the best idea after all | | | | | It was significantly lower at around $152 & he was not bothered at all, the profits are real & growing at a staggering rate. I don't think he will loose any sleep.
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26.07.2018, 21:57
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27.07.2018, 17:13
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| | Re: Another fundsmith question | Quote: | |  | | | | | | | | Facebook generated $13.2bn in revenue in one quarter – a 42% increase over the same quarter a year before. Facebook also reported a 31% jump in profits over the same quarter last year. The shares fell 20%, remember in the short term the market is a voting machine in the long term its a weighing machine. If it falls further this could be a once in 5 year opportunity as Apple was when it fell out of favour.
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27.07.2018, 17:35
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i'm torn on FB, in the long term there's a lot going for it (they have barely started to monetize messenger or IG) but this drop was the drop I was waiting for almost a year ago. i suspect another drop next Q if the slowdown in users/revenue is shown to be real and not just a blip.
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28.07.2018, 14:57
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| | Re: Another fundsmith question | Quote: | |  | | | Facebook generated $13.2bn in revenue in one quarter – a 42% increase over the same quarter a year before. Facebook also reported a 31% jump in profits over the same quarter last year. | | | | | This was expected and not why they fell | Quote: |  | | | The shares fell 20%, remember in the short term the market is a voting machine in the long term its a weighing machine. | | | | | The long term concerns from their guidance is exactly why they fell | Quote: |  | | | If it falls further this could be a once in 5 year opportunity as Apple was when it fell out of favour. | | | | | Or the aggressive overmonetization and stagnation in user growth could turn them into another myspace which never recovered when it fell out of favor
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28.07.2018, 19:30
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Fundsmith has beaten the S&P 500 index by a huge factor on 3 months, 6 months, 1 year, 3 years & 5 Years. I won't be loosing any sleep.
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04.09.2018, 16:48
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| | Re: Another fundsmith question
FYI: Terry Smith launches global smaller companies trust
Could be a good alternative (or complement) to EWI
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04.09.2018, 17:42
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| | Re: Another fundsmith question | Quote: | |  | | | | | | | | Thanks for sharing.
I'm glad it's a trust rather than a fund. Much more flexible and potentially cheaper (0.9% total by the look of it). Will keep my eye on it. Bear in mind the premium/discount to NAV factor when looking at closed-end trusts.
There's also Finsbury Growth & Income Trust (FGT.L) which has a similar strategy to Fundsmith Equity and in trust format.
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23.11.2018, 17:35
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| | Re: Another fundsmith question
so did anyone here invest in Smithson? What do you think of its current NAV premium?
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