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I've put in PF my 3a saving for last few years, only due to tax savings, no plan in investing (and potentially losing) them. Glad they at least take into account those savings, if they are above 25,000 CHF.

Are you sure? The way I read it was that 3a only counts if it is investment type (not just cash).
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Are you sure? The way I read it was that 3a only counts if it is investment type (not just cash).

That seems correct, I specifically asked that yesterday (and needed to get firm "is the answer yes or no?" to get something else than the standard text).
At least in e-trading, the cash does not count.
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Old 02.11.2018, 22:12
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I do wonder if any of this has to do with the administrative costs for US clients flocking to them (including myself ). I did see a thread at one point quoting numbers that were not insignificant.

I have an American colleague who is happy with our local Kantonalbank, living in a village I've found my German is better than I thought so I may check them out. Their E-banking solution, "Universalkonto E CHF" is free. https://www.akb.ch/private/bezahlen/...alkonten#e-chf

I see from the Zürcher Kantonalbank's site their basic "Privatkonto" is 12CHF per year. https://www.zkb.ch/de/pr/pk/zahlen-s...ivatkonto.html
Anyone else who is a US person and has had success with a bank other than PF?

I am a Italy/US dual national but spouse is US only. When we opened PF account, my understanding was there were not a lot of other banks that handled US nationals smoothly (or at all)...

We have been happy PF customers, probably will stay but we got the fee letter today too so rethinking alternatives...
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Which is better Revolute or Transferwise? Any Diff?
I depends on personal circumstances. I personally prefer Revolut as I travel a lot and find their app and cards easier to use. I currently transfer CHF from PF into TW and then top up Revolut via the TW debit card (all free).


I am now mulling over switching 100% of my banking to Revolut simply for the ease....
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I depends on personal circumstances. I personally prefer Revolut as I travel a lot and find their app and cards easier to use. I currently transfer CHF from PF into TW and then top up Revolut via the TW debit card (all free).


I am now mulling over switching 100% of my banking to Revolut simply for the ease....
From Dec'18 TW will start charging 1 CHF for each bank transfer from its borderless account, plus 0.3% additional conversion fee if sending to accounts in different currencies than CHF.

Revolut still doesn't have a Swiss IBAN. So completely commissions-free way of topping it from a Swiss account would probably be SEPA-transfers, if they are free in your bank.
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Re: Postfinance done with free accounts

This Postfinance mess triggered my post regarding neon-free:

https://www.englishforum.ch/finance-...f-account.html
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Post Finance closed free bank account services

Hi all,

Other than Migros Bank, do you know any other banks which provide free bank services (if you have CHF 7500 or CHF 10000) in the private?

Thanks.
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Re: Postfinance done with free accounts

Did you check credit suisse? Although I didn't go with them, they offered me free banking services, which if I'm not mistaken the min amount in account must be 8k CHF.

It was a few months ago though.
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Hi all,

Other than Migros Bank, do you know any other banks which provide free bank services (if you have CHF 7500 or CHF 10000) in the private?

Thanks.
I recently found out about BCV (https://www.bcv.ch). I am reserching it as it looks totally free from 10'000 CHF apart from ATM withdrawal (though you can use for free any kantonalbank ATM).
I think you can open an account online also if resident in another Kanton. No euro account, but you can use revolut I guess.

If anyone has any direct experience, please share.
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Old 14.11.2018, 21:44
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I recently found out about BCV (https://www.bcv.ch). I am reserching it as it looks totally free from 10'000 CHF apart from ATM withdrawal (though you can use for free any kantonalbank ATM).
I think you can open an account online also if resident in another Kanton. No euro account, but you can use revolut I guess.

If anyone has any direct experience, please share.
I still have an account with them. Yes, it's completely free. You get Maestro card. I don't remember if there are any fees for using foreign ATMs. I just opened the account few years ago as a backup one in case something goes wrong with PF. I always do such things as I always prefer to have a plan B
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Re: Postfinance done with free accounts

"No account management fees shall be charged for investment assets of at least CHF 25,000 per customer relationship.

This means that a customer with a private account and investment assets of at least CHF 25,000 is exempt from the account management fee.
If they also have a partner account with investment assets of less than CHF 25,000, they will however be charged the account management fee for this account."


I have a bit more than 25k at PostFinance and my husband has less.


My husband received the fee letter( he has only a couple of thousands).


If I did not receive any letter?



Means I will not have to pay the fee?
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Re: Postfinance done with free accounts

Oh, I found it:
"Do I also pay account management fees for a savings account?

No, the savings account will remain free of charge."


Thanks God!
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Any good/bad experiences with Crédit Agricole next bank
I can't find any rating agencies rating for Swiss branch of Credit Agricole.
For some other banks in Switzerland it is here:
https://www.moneyland.ch/de/bankenrating

A 2014 article said the French part of it was rated at A/A+ by some agencies:
https://www.kritische-anleger.de/cre...e/test/#Rating
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"No account management fees shall be charged for investment assets of at least CHF 25,000 per customer relationship.

This means that a customer with a private account and investment assets of at least CHF 25,000 is exempt from the account management fee.
If they also have a partner account with investment assets of less than CHF 25,000, they will however be charged the account management fee for this account."


I have a bit more than 25k at PostFinance and my husband has less.


My husband received the fee letter( he has only a couple of thousands).


If I did not receive any letter?



Means I will not have to pay the fee?
I think all accounts are being charged irrespective of balances. If you do have investments/mortgage with PF higher than the limit, then you will not be charged.
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Re: Postfinance done with free accounts

I have had a second account with Migros Bank for ages and i am actually quite impressed of their ebanking interface as well support. It has improved over the years quite a lot as well.
Comparatively PF has made a difficult process when logging in with the yellow card. Plus it requires the physical card which I never quite understood why.

Anyway, I am closing all my PF accounts and moving to Migros Bank. I dont think it is in any way inferior to PF, except that is when you really require English for your banking interface.
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...Comparatively PF has made a difficult process when logging in with the yellow card. Plus it requires the physical card which I never quite understood why.

Good luck with the bank move but just for clarification, actually you can login to PF without the physical card; you just need to set up SIM security login. I did this a while back and love it. Secure and very simple.
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Good luck with the bank move but just for clarification, actually you can login to PF without the physical card; you just need to set up SIM security login. I did this a while back and love it. Secure and very simple.
It isn't that easy since I am on a Lyca prepaid, and oh well Mobile Id wasn't supported for the longest time for prepaid clients and as far i know, you need to pay an additional CHF 20/40 for getting a new Mobile-ID capable SIM.
Don't think this will be the case with my Lyca prepaid, at least not as simple as for example NAB or Credit Suisse logins that work with any mobile numbers.

But if you are on a regular Swisscom or Salt contract that may be an option, and I would have done it if setting it up was easy.
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I depends on personal circumstances. I personally prefer Revolut as I travel a lot and find their app and cards easier to use. I currently transfer CHF from PF into TW and then top up Revolut via the TW debit card (all free).
Well that's interesting I have been looking for a fee free way to do the bank transfer to revolut. I haven't been using TW so far so that's a reason to sign up

I am a quite eager Revolut user though and am about to cancel my regular swiss credit cards.
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i am with bank cler online banking, the fee is only 2 sfr a month.
That's a different offering to this one? https://www.cler.ch/de/landing-pages/zak/#
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Are you sure? The way I read it was that 3a only counts if it is investment type (not just cash).
This is what they say... https://www.postfinance.ch/en/detail...customers.html

What is classified as investment assets?

- Fund investments (including retirement funds in the retirement savings account 3a and the vested benefits account)
- and custody account assets in e-trading.

How are investment assets calculated?

Investment assets are recalculated monthly. The amount at the end of the month – made up of the total of investment funds (PostFinance funds, funds of third-party providers), retirement funds (pillar 3a and vested benefits) and e-trading (custody account assets without cash) – is taken into account.
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