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Question about income tax letter received

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I have a question regarding a letter I received for my income taxes (2018).

I'm on permit B and taxed at source. I did the full declaration for 2017 and it's fully closed. I can obtain the permit C in March 2019.

I received a letter yesterday requesting money for taxes (by 31/12/18). It was titled 'tranche 10' (I also received 'tranche 9' but the requested amount was 0).

I'm confused as I'm taxed at source. I already e-mailed the canton, but does anybody know what this could be about?

I'm wondering if they intend to allow me to be paid gross for November and December and therefore this payment is to cover those months tax. However, the amount seems to be more than what my usual withholding tax would be for those months.

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Old 25.10.2018, 18:12
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Re: Question about income tax letter received

As long as you are taxed at source, it is the employer's duty to deduct that tax. The deduction is done on a month-by-month basis.

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I'm wondering if they intend to allow me to be paid gross for November and December and therefore this payment is to cover those months tax.
Could you please say a bit more about what you mean by this and your line of reasoning here? I'm not sure if I've understood you. Do you mean that the tax office will allow the employer to NOT deduct the source tax? That doesn't seem likely, to me.
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As long as you are taxed at source, it is the employer's duty to deduct that tax. The deduction is done on a month-by-month basis.



Could you please say a bit more about what you mean by this and your line of reasoning here? I'm not sure if I've understood you. Do you mean that the tax office will allow the employer to NOT deduct the source tax? That doesn't seem likely, to me.
Thanks for your reply. In that case, maybe it's just a mistake as I'm definitely paying tax at source...

You understood me - I was just guessing maybe they would start allowing me to be paid gross as I will receive my C-permit soon, not based on anything, just some possible explanation.
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Thanks for your reply. In that case, maybe it's just a mistake as I'm definitely paying tax at source...

You understood me - I was just guessing maybe they would start allowing me to be paid gross as I will receive my C-permit soon, not based on anything, just some possible explanation.
Not my experience, your employer deducts your taxes and will only stop doing so when you show them the C permit.

I had to contact the Steueramt to get bills to pay after I changed to a C permit mid year.
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Not my experience, your employer deducts your taxes and will only stop doing so when you show them the C permit.

I had to contact the Steueramt to get bills to pay after I changed to a C permit mid year.
Thanks. Hopefully the canton will get back go me soon. Will report back...
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Re: Question about income tax letter received

Just ask them, mine made some mistakes as well as they thought I was already on a C permit.
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your employer deducts your taxes and will only stop doing so when you show them the C permit.
Mine refunded me all of mine the day after I got married to a Swiss, despite only having a B (in ZH).

And I never showed them anything.

Then we moved to Ticino, and they started doing tax at source again, until after several months they gave it all back as my income was outside their ability to calculate.

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Re: Question about income tax letter received

So I received a reply from the canton.

If I understood correctly, they are charging additional tax as I filed a full declaration (including some wealth tax) in 2017 and so they are applying that same amount for 2018 taxes. They said that if the amount is higher than my withholding tax from Oct-Dec 2018 then I need to pay.

The amount they charged me won't be covered by the withholding tax so I guess I need to pay the extra amount (it mentions before 30 Dec).

I'm just a bit confused as to why I need to pay in advance and can't just sort this out with my next declaration though. Every year I get a refund anyway as I pay into pensions, including this year.

Anyone experienced the same before?
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You don’t have to pay it, they just advise you to pay it if the amount they expect your liability to be is higher than the tax you’ve paid at source.
If you expect to get a refund I wouldn’t bother paying it but if you end up with a tax liability above the amount you have already paid they will charge you interest on that amount.
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You don’t have to pay it, they just advise you to pay it if the amount they expect your liability to be is higher than the tax you’ve paid at source.
If you expect to get a refund I wouldn’t bother paying it but if you end up with a tax liability above the amount you have already paid they will charge you interest on that amount.
Perfect, thankyou very much for clarifying!
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