The date of departure.
If he leaves Switzerland e.g. end of Oct., he needs to arrange with ORP to get a so-called U2 form that he needs to bring to the unemployment office in his new country of residence at the beginning of Nov.
(https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizen...s/index_en.htm)

Then he'll get the money for Nov, Dec and Jan. (Unless he'll find a job in the new country in the meantime.)

That may sound good in theory, but it's not how it works in practice. It's called EXPORT of benefits, probably for a reason.

That's not the point. Not at all.

Deregistering is subject to Cantonal law thus details may vary, and probably do.
You may be able to deregister weeks in advance in Canton A, but that means zilch for Canton B.

Thanks a lot for all your great feedback. My situation is as follows:



I am unemployed and receiving unemployment money from RAV.


I have been offered a job in Germany to start on 4 November.


I now live in Zug and want to deregister and pay my taxes before leaving at the end of this month. I have enough cash to cover the taxes owed.


I would like to do all this a few days before I leave so the deregistration certifcate can be given to me in advance but with 2 November as the actual day of derigistration as this is the day on which I will leave.

I went today to deregister and was told that I must sign a "Vollmacht" (power of attorney) before I can deregister. If no one I know can do this, I can ask for a "Treuhand" to do it. Does anyone know any "Treuhand" who can deal with this issue and how much it would cost? Otherwise I was told that I cannot deregister from my Gemeinde.

Why not? And, not now (which is about two weeks in advance) or not at all?

According to the person at Gemeinde Steinhausen, without a Vollmacht I cannot at all deregister. have found the site steuerzentrum.ch on the internet and will contact them today to see if they can help (at a reasonable price)

I used Denise at Colfina, they even have a website in English

http://colfina.ch/english/

I just contacted them but they are not accepting any new customers

Bollocks. What would the POA be on, and why would you give that to anybody?

Deregistration is simply a matter of declaration, you inform the commune that you're leaving, that's all. Even if that's impossible in advance (dunno, sounds a bit implausible though) there's no refusing such when you actually do.

Further, the commune can not refuse to issue a confirmation of deregistration as that would violate the "Willkürverbot" (prohibition of arbitrariness?), and it could infringe on your right of free movement. The federal court has ruled on that in 2001 already.

They must be fully aware that what they're doing is beyond their powers. It won't hurt to print that out and have it with you next time you're there, and perhaps speak to the clerk's supervisor instead.

Thanks a lot for this information. I will do that. I think that the Gemeinde is being very unreasonable. I am quite prepared to pay my taxes and have the money ready. I will point this out to them and see how they react.

Zurich was the same, POA I signed is shown below. They charged 160 CHF

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Steuerzentrum.ch has quoted me 175 CHF

Sounds fine, my quote was from 2014

how long do you have to live in Zug to pay lower taxes?

They are being unreasonable and as linked before they can't deny you your de-registration or your de-registration certificate due to unpaid or potentially unpaid taxes.

When I was leaving they tried that. I said I'm happy to do my taxes before I leave but that's a separate issue from my de-registration. They gave me my certificate and said the tax office are calculating what tax I owe that day and I will need to pay it immediately. I said that's fine. I got a phone call later that day saying that they owed me in the region of 250CHF of taxes...of course I had to wait 6 months for that refund though.

Yes, they're trying it on. Steinhausen's Webpage says (last paragraph)
The Canton however is asking for an adress abroad, neither a Swiss address nor a POA. The Canton's form can be found here, link #3 for PDF and #4 for a word doc, other than that the two have are the same.

Of course the Canton overrules the commune.

Gemeinde Steinhausen say that I need both the POA ("Vollmacht") and the form from Canton Zug.

Did you have an option of getting a friend to sign the POA rather than a Treuhand?

Of course, that's their claim and counter clerk is unlikely to deviate from that.

The question is how you want ot play it. And, presumably, how important it is for you to get the Abmeldebestätigung soon. If you decide to fight their abuse of power it may take quite some time.