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Have to pay tax "at source" again, as it was lost

Dear all,
I hope no one has faced the same situation as I did, but still any ideas would be welcome.
I recently found out that the tax office in Neuchatel, where I live, did not receive "at source" tax from the company XXX where I work (located in Geneva). And I have to pay it now.

The issue appeared, as in October I obtained my C permit, and now I am paying my taxes myself. In theory, I should pay tax only for November and December 2019, but the tax office requested me to pay as of February 2019, the day when I started at XXX.

In brief: the XXX was taking the "at source" tax from my salary and sending it... to Santa Clause I believe? But definitely not to the Neuchatel tax office. (I can't believe the money as of February 2019 still have not reached the beneficiary, so the only conclusion I can make - they were not transferred).

I am now obliged to pay the whole sum again by March, and it's around 9k.

For sure, the first thing I did was the email to the accountant, responsible for the salary. Asking for any document that would confirm that the taxes were paid. But I have no clue how to proceed further, and what is actually possible to do in this situation. I don't have a feeling that XXX will just make a (X-mas present) transfer to the correct tax office with the correct sum.

Looks it's the responsibility of myself, but I have sent an email to the accountant in the beginning of the year, pointing out that I live in NE, and my taxes should go there. She replied it was taken into account, and my % was the NE rate. So definitely the fault of accountant?

Any thoughts welcome.
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Re: Have to pay tax "at source" again, as it was lost

If they paid you as though you were already off tax at source, then it's on you. You probably can arrange to pay in installments, but you'll have to pay interest.

That's the easy bit. Now for the hard bit:

If your employer paid you as though they had deducted the tax, but didn't pass it on, then it's fairly clear they've done something wrong.Either they must give the money to you so that you can pass it to the tax office, or they must pay it.

If that's the case, then you need some advice from an independent accountant or even a lawyer. The question is whether your employer is deliberately trying to defraud (you or the tax office), or if they're just incompetent. Probably a good time to start looking for a new employer either way.
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If your employer paid you as though they had deducted the tax, but didn't pass it on, then it's fairly clear they've done something wrong.Either they must give the money to you so that you can pass it to the tax office, or they must pay it.
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I am really, really hoping it would be the case!
However, I found this tread:



https://www.englishforum.ch/finance-...ouble-tax.html


It looks some companies pay taxes to the canton where they are located, and then canton is supposed to transfer those money to the correct canton. This would mean I will receive the money from Geneva closer to my retirement.
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Probably a good time to start looking for a new employer either way.

you won't believe it, but I am working in a well-known high-tech super-pooper Swiss Contract Research Organization, doing stuff for companies like Novartis, Roche, etc.... Not an unknown firm based in the cellar...


So shocked myself actually.


and many thanks for your thoughts. it is always helpful.
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Re: Have to pay tax "at source" again, as it was lost

When you switch from withholding to normal, the company needs to refund you all payments (NOT the canton).

This happened to me twice, first when I married a Swiss in ZH, and second time in TI when being married to a Swiss did not auatomatically make me liable for normal taxes, but I made over their threshold. In both cases the money was returned before I got the new bills.

Two different companies, two different cantons.

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When you switch from withholding to normal, the company needs to refund you all payments (NOT the canton).

This happened to me twice, first when I married a Swiss in ZH, and second time in TI when being married to a Swiss did not auatomatically make me liable for normal taxes, but I made over their threshold. In both cases the money was returned before I got the new bills.

Two different companies, two different cantons.

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Many thanks, Tom!!!


The company where I work, definitely has no clue about that. But if it's a rule, it should be written somewhere, so then I need to find it out!
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If you have legal insurance, use that.

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