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, after you decide how much you can afford to invest, to invest gradually.
The problem is that strategy almost always loses you money v investing all day 1, especially after the current falls. Look back 1/3/5 years cost averaging would have been worse every time.
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The big guys are adding positions and they will add more if the market corrects more.

It is impossible to time the bottom. Imo the best approach is, after you decide how much you can afford to invest, to invest gradually.
If you are leveraged you are forced to sell unless you come with new money.

The big guys invest other people money, the clients are already calling and asking "how much did I lose". Maybe you can get some fresh money, but if the market keeps falling you are done.
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If I was to bet think Gilead's shares will climb and then some.

https://fortune.com/2020/03/10/gilea...ashington-cdc/

The upside is huge!
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Soon it could be the opportunity of a lifetime but not yet.
Its all about profiting from a calamity. Nice!
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Its all about profiting from a calamity. Nice!
You have a point.... i did wonder if doing this would bring bad karma.
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Old 14.03.2020, 09:36
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Invest in undertakers, florists & delivery services.
And Netflix, for all those who are stuck at home. Like me.

There's a great documentary available on it now. It's called Pandemic.
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The problem is that strategy almost always loses you money v investing all day 1, especially after the current falls. Look back 1/3/5 years cost averaging would have been worse every time.
What? You keep money aside, split the amounts, invest when there is a big drop and wait a few days. If more drop invest more of the money etc. Obviously you follow the news, if something big is brewing then you stay away for a few days/weeks until you see what it is going on. You need to stay in the markets even though you may lose some money initially. Good companies will bounce back when the economy normalises.

You can do better if you buy 10-20 individual stocks across sectors rather than funds.

I never look back, sorry. I look forward.
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If you are leveraged you are forced to sell unless you come with new money.

The big guys invest other people money, the clients are already calling and asking "how much did I lose". Maybe you can get some fresh money, but if the market keeps falling you are done.
Big guys invest their own money and are not leveraged at all.

People who invest other people's money are the ones with good communication skills able to convince others to hand them their own money. Some of them do ok most don't.

Leverage is for the weak and suckers. Buffet for example is sitting on $130b cash.

Invest what you have and can afford to lose.
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Re: Markets down - Invest now or wait further?

Just came back to this thread to point US market indexes went down 10+% yesterday Monday 16.03.2020

The economic disruption is only starting, there will be buying opportunities but not yet. Let the companies asking for bailouts go bankrupt first
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Sometimes I think itīs a good thing I donīt have money to play with. Donīt have to be afraid to lose anything.
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TVIX for those willing to risk?
Good times yesterday. Did you happen to give it a try?
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Re: Markets down - Invest now or wait further?

The time to invest is 2 weeks before they announce they have a working vaccine.


In the meantime, it's not too late to invest in Crematorium PLC
they are just getting fired up.
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Old 17.03.2020, 11:11
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Best do it before you yourself succumb to Corona.
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The time to invest is 2 weeks before they announce they have a working vaccine.


In the meantime, it's not too late to invest in Crematorium PLC
they are just getting fired up.

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Re: Markets down - Invest now or wait further?

thoughts on this...

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Good times yesterday. Did you happen to give it a try?
During 2009-2013 I did value investing and shorting. That kind of stuff is too risky now.

Also, I'm currently paying debt. Nothing beats the "yield" of paying debt in advance.
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Re: Markets down - Invest now or wait further?

hello, and thanks for any help! do you know a trustworthy site i can buy stocks with minimal hassle and small transaction cost? regarding these transaction costs, is it the case that under a certain investment amount it's not worth investing anyway really? how much is too pointless? Thanks for any help you can give me.

i was going to ask for stock or fund suggestions but i think you have to pay for that right? isnt that how you make a switzerland?
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The time to invest is 2 weeks before they announce they have a working vaccine.


In the meantime, it's not too late to invest in Crematorium PLC
they are just getting fired up.
Or JCB - for digging the mass graves. Hey - aren't JCB a major donor to Boris? That'd explain the UKs strategy. (Too dark?).
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Or JCB - for digging the mass graves. Hey - aren't JCB a major donor to Boris? That'd explain the UKs strategy. (Too dark?).

I expect one elderly lady who lives in the Jura and cannot walk the dog in the woods anymore would have made that connection already.
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hello, and thanks for any help! do you know a trustworthy site i can buy stocks with minimal hassle and small transaction cost? regarding these transaction costs, is it the case that under a certain investment amount it's not worth investing anyway really? how much is too pointless? Thanks for any help you can give me.

i was going to ask for stock or fund suggestions but i think you have to pay for that right? isnt that how you make a switzerland?
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