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Old 23.04.2020, 10:22
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Re: So. Did anyone check the price of oil today?

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Your quote on the financial WMDs was demonstrated wrong.
However you had dissed my comments before I even wrote that.

Anyway please find a quote where Buffet has ever recommended anyone to purchase EFT's, I think by now you now realise it does not exist as you had understood low cost tracker funds to mean EFT tracker funds, something Buffet has never said.
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Old 23.04.2020, 14:53
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Re: So. Did anyone check the price of oil today?

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Commodity ETFs will suffer due to rollover of contracts. Do you know what that is?

ETFs are good to give you access to remote markets but for the big local markets like US & Europe you have better control doing the investments directly IMO.
I said nothing about commodities.

My concern is with your statement of "any serious investor always avoids commodity ETFs and ETFs in general." Serious investors most certainly use ETFs to great effect, although commodity investing (whether or not as an ETF) is more like gambling in Vegas unless one is very savvy.

A simple S&P 500 ETF will beat managed funds ~85% of the time, and for people who are not in a position to actively manage their investments that 10% annual return over the long haul is quite good.

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Re: So. Did anyone check the price of oil today?

We have a massive oil tank for the central heating, 10000 litres- just ordered a top up ready for next winter at 59 centimes- lowest ever for us since we arrived here 11 years ago.
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Old 23.04.2020, 18:06
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Re: So. Did anyone check the price of oil today?

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We have a massive oil tank for the central heating, 10000 litres- just ordered a top up ready for next winter at 59 centimes- lowest ever for us since we arrived here 11 years ago.
Oil is priced in USD which also helps you slightly at the moment.
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However you had dissed my comments before I even wrote that.
Even if that were true it woulnd't change a thing. You're unable to prove your claim.
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Re: So. Did anyone check the price of oil today?

Oil markets are getting back to normal.
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Re: So. Did anyone check the price of oil today?

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We have a massive oil tank for the central heating, 10000 litres- just ordered a top up ready for next winter at 59 centimes- lowest ever for us since we arrived here 11 years ago.
Fantastic idea! We're putting an order in now as well. Didn't get 59 Rappen per liter, but much better than the last few times we filled up.
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Re: So. Did anyone check the price of oil today?

A good idea is to become part of a group of locals to buy in bulk. We have a friend here who organises it- about 20 of us and therefore we get a much better prices as we buy 100.000 litres + every time. If there isn't one where you are, approach neighbours and get a group going.
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Re: So. Did anyone check the price of oil today?

ETFs that track large indices are similar to an investment in an index fund, which is passive-managed. Passive funds, historically, outperform active-managed ones in the long run, but to invest in an index fund, you must have at least ten of thousands of francs. ETF allows you to “track the market” with a smaller capital.
If you want to “invest” or speculate commodities, use future contracts or options. I, at a time, was interested in buying gold ETF to gain exposure to gold movement, but it was a horrible idea.
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Re: So. Did anyone check the price of oil today?

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ETFs that track large indices are similar to an investment in an index fund, which is passive-managed. Passive funds, historically, outperform active-managed ones in the long run, but to invest in an index fund, you must have at least ten of thousands of francs. ETF allows you to “track the market” with a smaller capital.
If you want to “invest” or speculate commodities, use future contracts or options. I, at a time, was interested in buying gold ETF to gain exposure to gold movement, but it was a horrible idea.
You don't need much money to invest in an index fund - most funds sell parts of units on a subscription basis, so the very high unit value is not a blocker. Some have a minimum subscription (still unrelated to the unit price), but for any popular index there are funds with low minimums.
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