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eru 25.04.2020 10:28

Looking for discrete deposit box
 
Hello,

Do you have good suggestions for a deposit box in CH or abroad? It should be as anonyme as possible. Definitely without bound bank account and without referencing in any directories, if they exist. Box location could be also in France, Austria, maybe Italia

Thanks

roegner 25.04.2020 10:33

Re: Looking for discrete deposit box
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by eru (Post 3175390)
Hello,

Do you have good suggestions for a deposit box in CH or abroad? It should be as anonyme as possible. Definitely without bound bank account and without referencing in any directories, if they exist. Box location could be also in France, Austria, maybe Italia

Thanks

Your luck will be small with all the data exchange regulations.

Jim2007 25.04.2020 11:00

Re: Looking for discrete deposit box
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by roegner (Post 3175393)
Your luck will be small with all the data exchange regulations.

In this day and age, you'd be mad to allow unknown individuals to store packages in your building... data protecting would be the least of the worries.

me.anon 25.04.2020 11:28

Re: Looking for discrete deposit box
 
You have to do as the old pirates used to do. Bury your items somewhere and make a treasure map.

NotAllThere 25.04.2020 11:30

Re: Looking for discrete deposit box
 
Try Raiffeisen.

Although a year or so ago their deposit box facility was raided. People who had undeclared deposits of course lost all they had. One guy lost several million francs. Oh dear. How sad. Never mind.

Verbier 25.04.2020 11:37

Re: Looking for discrete deposit box
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by eru (Post 3175390)
Hello,

Do you have good suggestions for a deposit box in CH or abroad? It should be as anonyme as possible. Definitely without bound bank account and without referencing in any directories, if they exist. Box location could be also in France, Austria, maybe Italia

Thanks

Here is one example of "private safety deposit box rental Switzerland" search on Google. They have several locations.

https://swissgoldsafe.ch/en/safe-dep...s-switzerland/

"Compared to a bank’s safe deposit box, Swiss Gold Safe, as a private provider, offers its customers undeniable benefits. This includes the fact that by opting for the discreet storage of your valuables in a bank-independent facility, there are no legal reporting requirements to fulfil."

Spinal 25.04.2020 11:42

Re: Looking for discrete deposit box
 
Check Degussa in Zurich.... they need a copy of your ID, but don't keep track of what's in your box.

aSwissInTheUS 25.04.2020 13:24

Re: Looking for discrete deposit box
 
There was once a short lived TV series where the premises was that an anonymous saftey deposit box was opened after the rent has not been paid for X years. After the box was opened a private detective tried to find the rightful owner of the content using as a clue just what was in the box.

The Landesmuseum in Zurich has an nice old safety deposit box shelve on display.

PS: If you pick your storrage loccation check that it is not prone to flooding (take barrages into account) and other hazzards.

PPS: Also check how access to the safety deposit boxes is secured. Self serivce might give you a sense of privacy but has a lack of security https://www.presseportal.de/blaulicht/pm/104236/4575096
https://www.kreiszeitung-wochenblatt...raeumt_a145589
https://www.bazonline.ch/basel/schli...story/17760974
but not only automated systems are at risk:
https://www.sueddeutsche.de/muenchen...hlen-1.4784629

eru 25.04.2020 15:33

Re: Looking for discrete deposit box
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Verbier (Post 3175418)
https://swissgoldsafe.ch/en/safe-dep...s-switzerland/

"Compared to a bank’s safe deposit box, Swiss Gold Safe, as a private provider, offers its customers undeniable benefits. This includes the fact that by opting for the discreet storage of your valuables in a bank-independent facility, there are no legal reporting requirements to fulfil."

Thanks, I did see similar offers from other companies, even significantly cheaper. ~150 CHF/year

What Do you think, are these claims reliable?

Quote:

A facility that is independent of the banking system and in private ownership.
A fully insurable service – anonymously and without reporting of the client to the insurer.
No declaration of content and no reporting to government agencies.
No identification of the beneficial owner.
I'm asking, because other people, even here in thread, claim everything is regulated and should be reported to some state institutions, i.e. Betreibungsamt

Murloc 25.04.2020 15:52

Re: Looking for discrete deposit box
 
once it becomes criminal, these places can get raided too.

Deposits in free port locations have been abused for all sorts of things, art smuggling being the egregious example.
It's discrete but probably through opaque structures.

aSwissInTheUS 25.04.2020 16:21

Re: Looking for discrete deposit box
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by eru (Post 3175512)
I'm asking, because other people, even here in thread, claim everything is regulated and should be reported to some state institutions, i.e. Betreibungsamt

Simply ask those people for a direct link to the specific article of the actual law and regulations which would mandate such a reporting.
Here a helpful link for those people making claims w/o source: https://www.admin.ch/opc/de/classifi.../national.html

NotAllThere 25.04.2020 17:30

Re: Looking for discrete deposit box
 
Send whatever it is to me. I'll evaluate my personal risk and let you know whether I'll keep it safe, or use it to blackmail you.


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