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now you need to tell us where to find a wife that costs only 35k a year
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My idea of heaven in Switzerland. Barn conversion (Goat shed :-)Is it possible to have something like that for CHF200,000? All I would need then is good health and good internet connection to work till my dying day.
Here's one for 39k. Probably negotiable. Be prepared to put at least 150k (double would be better) into it and do as much of the work as you can yourself. https://www.agtenimmobilien.ch/kauf/...scher-umgebung

And here you'll find some more
https://www.sentiero.ch/de66_berghue...uf-verkauf.htm

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Old 25.08.2020, 13:37
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I heard that some communities in Switzerland especially in the Mountains will give you a huge tax discount if you move there for a few years as you retire. The discount can be worth up to 6 figures for a normal retirement package. Anyone has further insights into this?
I know about Albinen, but that's not so much about tax. It's a cash incentive to help repopulate a dying village. There are similar stories in Italy too, where you can buy a property in an abandoned village for one Euro. But all come with strings attached, as there's no such thing as a free lunch.
https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/busines...-000-/43719788
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Old 25.08.2020, 13:42
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I've got a mate considering the same thing, although the ongoing expense sounded quite a bit.
A lot of people are converting the very large delivery vans into campers and finding independance and an economical retirement that way. You need the £££s to buy one initially though.
With the right insulation and built in amenities, I can see the attraction.
or one of these https://www.wohnwagon.at/en/the-wohnwagon/
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Old 25.08.2020, 13:42
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Old 25.08.2020, 13:54
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I know about Albinen, but that's not so much about tax. It's a cash incentive to help repopulate a dying village. There are similar stories in Italy too, where you can buy a property in an abandoned village for one Euro. But all come with strings attached, as there's no such thing as a free lunch.
https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/busines...-000-/43719788

I see lot of under 200k properties in Albinen

CHF 135,000 for this one-

https://www.immoscout24.ch/en/d/atti...lbinen/6142538
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I had already posted it before on the thread
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Old 25.08.2020, 13:58
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So Beja but near the coast, right? I am not sacrificing Swiss mountains and then not being near the ocean. Is silver coast near Lisbon any good or is it full of foreigners only?

I love Lisbon and would like to be near it but CHF200,000 would get more on the outskirts? Small house with some land?
There was an episode of 'A Place In The Sun' last year which caused quite a stir in our family because my brother-in-law was looking at a possible investment/retirement property. It was this episode set on the Silver Coast or Portugal. We were quite stunned at the location and the standard of property for the modest budget. It was quite an eye opener because the house prices were lower than in North West UK. It's definitely a place I'd seriously consider.

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Old 25.08.2020, 13:59
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I see lot of under 200k properties in Albinen

CHF 135,000 for this one-

https://www.immoscout24.ch/en/d/atti...lbinen/6142538
Well, you'd have to check out Albinen and see if you could make a life for yourself there. If, for example, a vigorous social life is your thing, then probably not so much. I'm not sure the 25k offer is still on the table, btw.
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Well, you'd have to check out Albinen and see if you could make a life for yourself there. If, for example, a vigorous social life is your thing, then probably not so much. I'm not sure the 25k offer is still on the table, btw.

I like peace and quiet so not an issue for me as long as I have good internet connection to work I don't qualify for the 25k due to age anyway. This thread helped me a lot, was good idea that I joined this forum
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There was an episode of 'A Place In The Sun' last year which caused quite a stir in our family because my brother-in-law was looking at a possible investment/retirement property. It was this episode set on the Silver Coast or Portugal. We were quite stunned at the location and the standard of property for the modest budget. It was quite an eye opener because the house prices were lower than in North West UK. It's definitely a place I'd seriously consider.

https://www.aplaceinthesun.com/tv-sh...ace-in-the-sun

Yes I always watch 'A Place In The Sun'. Mostly they seem to focus on Spain though.
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I like peace and quiet so not an issue for me as long as I have good internet connection to work I don't qualify for the 25k due to age anyway. This thread helped me a lot, was good idea that I joined this forum
If you don't qualify for the 25k and peace and quiet is your thing, then there's no need to get fixated on Albinen. You should check out the rest of Wallis and maybe Ticino too, although we have better weather But I would say that, wouldn't I? Just waiting for the backlash.
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If you don't qualify for the 25k and peace and quiet is your thing, then there's no need to get fixated on Albinen. You should check out the rest of Wallis and maybe Ticino too, although we have better weather But I would say that, wouldn't I? Just waiting for the backlash.

I love Wallis! Rest of it is on my list too
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Here's one for 39k. Probably negotiable. Be prepared to put at least 150k (double would be better) into it and do as much of the work as you can yourself. https://www.agtenimmobilien.ch/kauf/...scher-umgebung

And here you'll find some more
https://www.sentiero.ch/de66_berghue...uf-verkauf.htm
Thanks so much for this, have wanted to find sites with little alp huttes available for sell and figured most of them have just been passed from generation to generation and aren't ever for sale.

Do companies actually renovate these places or do you have to be skilled yourself?
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Here's one for 39k. Probably negotiable. Be prepared to put at least 150k (double would be better) into it and do as much of the work as you can yourself. https://www.agtenimmobilien.ch/kauf/...scher-umgebung

And here you'll find some more
https://www.sentiero.ch/de66_berghue...uf-verkauf.htm
maybe demolish and add a house instead
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Re: Do you think about your future/retirement etc?

Place in the Sun is pretty good, but I"m addicted to House Hunters International. That's how I spend my Sunday mornings. I use Hulu streaming in the US via a VPN...but can also find episodes on Youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...international+

Some for Portugal:

https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...onal++Portugal

For us, we want to retire in Squamish, British Columbia...I love the weather and wildlife/wilderness there. It's on the inlet just between Vancouver and Whistler. And close to my wife's family in the Vancouver area, but still a small town a little ways away. Ocean and mountains in the same spot. What's not to love. Also considering Costa Rica or Panama.
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Thanks so much for this, have wanted to find sites with little alp huttes available for sell and figured most of them have just been passed from generation to generation and aren't ever for sale.
Do companies actually renovate these places or do you have to be skilled yourself?
I'm glad you found it useful.
They used to be passed down the generations, but that was when families still had animals and these huts were used in the summer when the cows and sheep were on the Alps. Nowadays, the owners might sell to one family member who'll do it up as a holiday home, but many owners are quite happy to let them go, especially since they are often part-owners of more than one such property.
Be aware that some of these are VERY remote. It is quite common here to fly in materials by helicopter, which actually isn't as pricey as one would think compared to road haulage. The descriptions should tell you what the situation regarding access, water, electricity, sewage etc. is. Some require a Swiss passport to buy the property.
Tearing them down and building new may not be possible.
There are companies that do this kind of work, but it is very expensive. Labour costs around here are CHF 90 per hour and materials are also very pricey.
Some people import materials from Italy (Domodossola being a favourite).
I know a builder who can do pretty much anything except electrics and sanitation. He had his eye, ever since he was a small boy, on a house in his small village that had been abandoned decades before, and bought it a couple of years ago. He spent 300k on it plus his own work (which was most of it). It is now a very, very bijou property but he wouldn't get his money back if he sold it. But people around here don't do it for the money.
Let me know if you need any more info.
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If you marry a Portugese lady purely for tax reasons, it'll undoubtedly make things worse from any other point of view.
I'd marry for love, not for tax reasons!!
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I'd marry for love, not for tax reasons!!
I think that would be very wise.
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Thanks so much for this, have wanted to find sites with little alp huttes available for sell and figured most of them have just been passed from generation to generation and aren't ever for sale.

Do companies actually renovate these places or do you have to be skilled yourself?
Btw, if you're interested in Ticino, they're called "Rustico".
You'll find some for sale here:
https://www.allekleinanzeigen.ch/hau...n.html?s=price
a search for rustico on a property portal should yield some results.
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