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Do you think about your future/retirement etc?

Ideally I would like to live in Switzerland for rest of my life but it seems it would be difficult financially. The only thing I can afford to buy here is a goat shed in the mountains. I can redo the interior and live like a king but would my aging body cope with walking up and down steep hills! Electric bicycle?

Southern Europe is a possible destination as property is lot cheaper and it looks like I can buy a nice house with enough land for a vegetable garden (important for the times we are living in).

Spain, Portugal and Italy are possible destinations. I love mountains and not touristy beaches so I will feel a longing for the mountains if I move away. I have Permit C and I aim to become Swiss before I leave, otherwise it would be bye bye Switzerland forever. My Swiss friend said that if you run into major problems abroad and get ruined financially, you can always return as a Swiss and get social help. Not that I intend to ever be on social but who knows the future. Also will there even be social help available in 20 years time?

I don't know what my question is, just rambling and worried about what to do and what not to do. Being a nomad all my life, I am always a foreigner no matter where I live. With Covid, over population, lack of resources/jobs etc and possible rise of nationalism would I even be safe in Southern Europe? Than again things could go south in Switzerland too but I think rich countries break down last?

I am a frugal low maintenance guy in general and have no major vices. I work hard and save but what should my aim be apart from winning the lottery or marrying a rich Swiss lady?
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Old 23.08.2020, 16:03
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Re: Do you think about your future/retirement etc?

Am kind of in the same boat here. Approaching 50, always saved my money, have enough to retire in a cheaper southern EU country. But where to go ? I like both beaches and mountains, have been looking at Canary Islands but also like long motorcycle and car trips throughout the EU. So Tenerife is a bit far for that.

I like the idea of Ticino but this is also kind of expensive especially as I want a garage and room to work on motorcycles. (Southern) Germany comes to mind but I like the feel of southern Europe. I want to have a look at Puglia (the heel of the boot) but am careful with travel now with Covid.. Slovenia also seems to be nice but language would be a problem.

In CH, have you looked at the Jura ? Houses are relatively cheap there, and its a mountainous area...
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Old 23.08.2020, 18:16
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Re: Do you think about your future/retirement etc?

Who knows what is going to happen?

Chill and let this one play out for at least a few years before you decide.

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Old 23.08.2020, 18:34
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Re: Do you think about your future/retirement etc?

Pretty much already decided, though hubby won't admit it. Back to the UK eventually since our house there is better suited for his medical needs as he grows older. My needs too probably; beginning to find it hard to get up 2 flights of stairs in one go without the help of a handrail.
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Old 23.08.2020, 18:38
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Re: Do you think about your future/retirement etc?

Dan and I have been discussing this for the last couple of years and haven't come much closer to any solutions.

Unlike you guys, we talk about moving north, to the cool, damp hills of Scotland or the temperate beauty of British Columbia. Or maybe we'll just buy a boat and live on it while we tour the world for a few years and THEN try to figure out where we want to live

Honestly, it is a nice problem to have.
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Old 23.08.2020, 18:48
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Re: Do you think about your future/retirement etc?

Already bought a house in another country, in a city I worked for a longer time, and where my Swiss savings will give me sufficient joy of retirement
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Re: Do you think about your future/retirement etc?

For me the biggest considerations (as of today, subject to change) are access to good healthcare, nice weather, affordability, close enough to civilization if I want to go out and meet people, and most importantly a place where I can speak the language. Reasonable proximity to a major airport would also be important.

At the moment Switzerland isn't high on the list for me, as it's simply too pricey and I hate the gray winters. At most I can see myself as a snowbird, spending summers here and winters elsewhere.
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Northern Italy, possibly near the lakes, sounds a good option for you. You might have to learn Italian but that'd be well worth the effort.

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At the moment Switzerland isn't high on the list for me, as it's simply too pricey and I hate the gray winters. At most I can see myself as a snowbird, spending summers here and winters elsewhere.
Grey winters? A friend of mine who lives near Bern regularly calls me in winter just to tell me that there's basically one low, dark grey cloud stretching from one side of Switzerland to the other. But that only applies to Switzerland north of the Alps. You're in the wrong part of Switzerland. Try Wallis. We don't have grey winters. Lots of sunshine and more ski resorts than you could shake a stick at. Very easily accessible from Northern Italy too.
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Ideally I would like to live in Switzerland for rest of my life but it seems it would be difficult financially. The only thing I can afford to buy here is a goat shed in the mountains. I can redo the interior and live like a king but would my aging body cope with walking up and down steep hills! Electric bicycle?

Southern Europe is a possible destination as property is lot cheaper and it looks like I can buy a nice house with enough land for a vegetable garden (important for the times we are living in).

Spain, Portugal and Italy are possible destinations. I love mountains and not touristy beaches so I will feel a longing for the mountains if I move away. I have Permit C and I aim to become Swiss before I leave, otherwise it would be bye bye Switzerland forever. My Swiss friend said that if you run into major problems abroad and get ruined financially, you can always return as a Swiss and get social help. Not that I intend to ever be on social but who knows the future. Also will there even be social help available in 20 years time?

I don't know what my question is, just rambling and worried about what to do and what not to do. Being a nomad all my life, I am always a foreigner no matter where I live. With Covid, over population, lack of resources/jobs etc and possible rise of nationalism would I even be safe in Southern Europe? Than again things could go south in Switzerland too but I think rich countries break down last?

I am a frugal low maintenance guy in general and have no major vices. I work hard and save but what should my aim be apart from winning the lottery or marrying a rich Swiss lady?
The CH pension will be very very little if say you start work here at 50 years of age. ( unless of course you are a big earner or you have saved alot up to the age of 50. ).
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Ideally I would like to live in Switzerland for rest of my life but it seems it would be difficult financially. The only thing I can afford to buy here is a goat shed in the mountains. I can redo the interior and live like a king but would my aging body cope with walking up and down steep hills! Electric bicycle?

Southern Europe is a possible destination as property is lot cheaper and it looks like I can buy a nice house with enough land for a vegetable garden (important for the times we are living in).

Spain, Portugal and Italy are possible destinations. I love mountains and not touristy beaches so I will feel a longing for the mountains if I move away. I have Permit C and I aim to become Swiss before I leave, otherwise it would be bye bye Switzerland forever. My Swiss friend said that if you run into major problems abroad and get ruined financially, you can always return as a Swiss and get social help. Not that I intend to ever be on social but who knows the future. Also will there even be social help available in 20 years time?

I don't know what my question is, just rambling and worried about what to do and what not to do. Being a nomad all my life, I am always a foreigner no matter where I live. With Covid, over population, lack of resources/jobs etc and possible rise of nationalism would I even be safe in Southern Europe? Than again things could go south in Switzerland too but I think rich countries break down last?

I am a frugal low maintenance guy in general and have no major vices. I work hard and save but what should my aim be apart from winning the lottery or marrying a rich Swiss lady?
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With goats?
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