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Old 26.08.2020, 23:12
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Very clever! Was this a normal USB mini/micro lead that you hacked and would you mind sharing a picture of which wire goes where please?


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i just cut off the USB cable off some device and soldered it to the battery contacts. typically usb cables have red wire for 5v vcc and black wire for ground but you can test with a multimeter.

just solder +ve to one battery holder and gnd to the other battery holder part. if you're not sure which, you can do trial and error and see what makes the device power up.

i can't send photo as i covered the whole back with hotglue to provide strain relief.
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Old 27.08.2020, 09:23
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I have three of those card readers and each ends up as low batteries after a few months too. They're awful devices.
The batteries in mine have lasted for years. I wonder if it's down to the specific calculator model?

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Great stuff from Phil_MCR.
I bet you the next thing on his list is to hotwire the card contacts straight into the reader... then add a digital controller to simulate the pin entry and generate a code with one touch.

OK, maybe some extra code to scrape off the challenge from the UBS online page but that's just a bit of Javascript /sarcasm #anonymous
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Old 27.08.2020, 09:56
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I bet you the next thing on his list is to hotwire the card contacts straight into the reader... then add a digital controller to simulate the pin entry and generate a code with one touch.
i actually considered something similar for another such reader. basically reading the code and displaying it on a website so i could log in from anywhere without carrying the stupid device around. i guess i cancelled the service before it was necessary to make that workaround
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Old 27.08.2020, 10:05
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Re: UBS Card Reader Rant!

Battery ran out within a few months on my wife's reader, but has lasted the past few years on mine. I've since replaced the battery on hers, and told her to keep the card outside of the reader in case that's what is causing the reader to turn on sporadically...
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Old 27.08.2020, 10:23
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Card reader? Call up UBS, and ask them for the integrated card.

It's a card with a screen and buttons on it. No need for a reader...

https://www.ubs.com/content/dam/ubs/...display-en.pdf
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Old 27.08.2020, 10:24
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Re: UBS Card Reader Rant!

These (CR2032) at 50Rp each, fit in my UBS card reader even though it specifies CR2025.
https://www.landi.ch/shop/batterien_...e-cr2032_19045
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Old 27.08.2020, 12:09
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These (CR2032) at 50Rp each, fit in my UBS card reader even though it specifies CR2025.
https://www.landi.ch/shop/batterien_...e-cr2032_19045
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The difference is in the thickness of the battery. The numbers also provide us useful information about this! The CR2025 has a diameter of 20mm and a thickness of 2.5mm, hence the number 2025. As you can imagine now, the CR2032 has a diameter of 20mm and a thickness of 3.2mm. As its the diameter that matters when fitting a new button battery, you can see that there is no difference.

mAh

mAh stands for milliampere-hour. With regards to batteries, it is an indicator of how long a battery will hold its charge for and how long the appliance or device will run for before you need to change the battery.

The CR2025 generally has a 165mAh and the CR2032 has a slightly higher mAh of 225. Depending on how frequently the device is used, it might be worth choosing the CR2032 battery.
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Old 27.08.2020, 12:20
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Card reader? Call up UBS, and ask them for the integrated card.

It's a card with a screen and buttons on it. No need for a reader...

https://www.ubs.com/content/dam/ubs/...display-en.pdf

More convenient to carry for sure - how long does the battery on that one last?



At 25 CHF for the card, the Landi batteries look good if you don't need to carry it around.



I am going to try Phil's USB hack and report back with a pic, but now I need to buy a soldering iron for CHF 30
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Old 27.08.2020, 12:58
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Re: UBS Card Reader Rant!

Here it is working with Crocodile clips as a temporary measure, or most likely, permanent!

I cut the end off of a Micro USB cable. It had some shielding around 4 wires. Ignore Green and White as they are used for Data. Black (Ground) goes to the '+' terminal, Red (5V) to the '-' terminal on the reader. I plugged it into my Laptop's USB port. It flashed 'Low battery' once but then worked.

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Old 27.08.2020, 13:37
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I have three of those card readers and each ends up as low batteries after a few months too. They're awful devices.
Same here. Put in new batteries. Leave in purse for weeks. Take out to make payments - battery flat. Husband the same. It's just crap really. Yes they will send a new one for free but should not be crap in the first place. Never had issues with the Postfinance card reader.
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Old 27.08.2020, 13:39
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Card reader? Call up UBS, and ask them for the integrated card.

It's a card with a screen and buttons on it. No need for a reader...

https://www.ubs.com/content/dam/ubs/...display-en.pdf
But still shows the calculator for confirming beneficiary no?
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Old 27.08.2020, 13:40
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The batteries in mine have lasted for years. I wonder if it's down to the specific calculator model?

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I had the very old one since 2002 and that one was grand (plus fit the whole card in and not only partial). Some 4 years ago it finally broke down and the new one has been crap.
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Old 27.08.2020, 13:42
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Just hop in at the next UBS and ask for a new one. My first one lasted several years until the battery died, dont use the current one very often but also no issues with a weak battery
Believe if you go in person versus ordering via customer centre it costs 10 CHF (not verified information though)
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Here it is working with Crocodile clips as a temporary measure, or most likely, permanent!

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Old 27.08.2020, 14:02
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Same here. Put in new batteries. Leave in purse for weeks. Take out to make payments - battery flat. Husband the same. It's just crap really. Yes they will send a new one for free but should not be crap in the first place. Never had issues with the Postfinance card reader.
do you leave the card inside the device? if in purse and buttons are bumped then of course the battery will run down. try keeping the card out of the unit and the unit in a box such that the buttons aren't pressed accidentally.
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Old 27.08.2020, 14:03
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I had the very old one since 2002 and that one was grand (plus fit the whole card in and not only partial). Some 4 years ago it finally broke down and the new one has been crap.
i have that same model and the display failed on it. i would fix it if i had time. the manufacturer is the same: kobil.

notably, the postfinance readers are much better. no battery issues, much better display quality.
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People are still using UBS?
That is so 2005.
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Old 27.08.2020, 16:30
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More convenient to carry for sure - how long does the battery on that one last?
I've had it for... almost two years, still on the original batteries. You cannot change the batteries in the card version. It's as flat as a credit card.


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But still shows the calculator for confirming beneficiary no?
Yes - it replaces both the card and the reader. There is a screen on the card itself (flat, thin) and flat buttons.

Also, the card one doesn't seem to suffer from the lcd failures I kept having from the big unit...
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MusicChick - why on earth did you groan this post?
Woohoo, my first groan! Seems like the bar is pretty low, but this feels like an achievement after all these years and I plan to exploit it where I can without shame Roll on number 2!
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