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Little extra (foreign) income, should I declare?

Hi,

I am emloyed in CH, since a couple of years, on a L permit, meaning they take the taxes from my salary and I never have to declare anything. Now, I started to receive some money (just a few hundreds EUR so far) as royalties for a software module that I sold to a company (EU): they give me a small percentage whenever they sell a copy.

I would not really like to go to a professional for such little amounts, but neither I would like to omit declaring them and possibly get a fine.

So, the question is: being employed 100%, with an L permit, EU citizen, receiving some 1500 EUR from a EU contry into my Swiss account, do I have to declare them and pay additional taxes? Any reference to swiss regulations in this regard would be highly appreciated.

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Re: Little extra (foreign) income, should I declare?

Go to Germany and open a savings account (with online banking) at the Deutsche Bank, it will cost you about €2 per month. You also get a card to use in European Cash machines. Check how much money you have online and spend the money when you go on holiday. There are much bigger fish in the sea, you won't be bothered.
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Re: Little extra (foreign) income, should I declare?

Thanks, Ittigen, but I'd like to do it the right way...
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Re: Little extra (foreign) income, should I declare?

Your best bet is to simply go to your tax office and ask them. They're usually pretty helpful when people are offering them money. My accountant converts € to CHF using the mid rate of the day the money entered my account, when declaring income.

I understand that with a B-permit, it's all quellensteuer up until 120'000CHF. If your total earnings don't exceed that, then it can be difficult to even get a tax return to fill in. I assume with your L permit you're on something similar. If your earnings are lower than the threshold, then I don't believe you need to declare, and may not be able to!

If higher, then you just put it on your tax return at the end of the year. There may be some AHV to pay as well.
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I understand that with a B-permit, it's all quellensteuer up until 120'000CHF.
Thanks. I am on L and get around 80KCHF/year. Do you know where to find official information about these thresholds?
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Re: Little extra (foreign) income, should I declare?

Chances are you don't need to declare then, as you won't receive a tax return. You can go to the steueramt, and ask for a tax return, explaining your situation, and see how they respond.

For information, Google is your friend. http://www.steueramt.zh.ch/html/quel...beitnehmer.htm

If you don't speak german, you could try putting it through google translate. Or find a friend who does speak German to help you.
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Re: Little extra (foreign) income, should I declare?

Maybe this can be useful to someone else. I wrote to the cantonal tax office, asking about my little extra income of 2010. I basically told them my salary, my L permit, and how much extra money I received last year (1700 EUR).

Here is their reply:

Nach der Weisung der Finanzdirektion über die ergänzende Veranlagung bei der Erhebung der Quellensteuer unterliegen ausländische Arbeitnehmer, die neben den quellenbesteuerten Einkünften über weitere, nicht an der Quelle besteuerte Einkünfte oder über Vermögen verfügen der ergänzenden Veranlagung. Dies bedeutet, dass eine Steuererklärung eingereicht werden muss. Die Verrechnungssteuer wird bei der Prüfung der Steuererklärung kontrolliert und falls korrekt gewährt.

Ein ergänzendes Veranlagungsverfahren wird nur durchgeführt, wenn das der Quellensteuer nicht unterworfene steuerbare Einkommen mindestens Fr. 2.500 oder das steuerbare Gesamtvermögen mindestens Fr. 200.000 beträgt.

Wir hoffen Ihnen mit diesen Angaben gedient zu haben.

As far I as undertood (I have replied asking for confirmation of my undertanding, but if someone here reads something different please say something), I do not have to do anything, because the extra income was below 2500 CHF (1700 EUR ~ 2200 CHF) and I do not have more than 200K CHF in my bank account. Exceeding any of those two threshold would have meant that I had to fill the
Steuererklärun; this way I live happy, even if I won't be claiming back those Verrechnungssteuer they stole from my interests .

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