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Sashimi and ceviche. I could eat gallons of ceviche.
ceviche!! yes. yum....
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Re: Better raw than cooked...

I made celeriac remoulade at the weekend, which was great with a couple of (not raw) merguez.
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Old 15.12.2010, 18:10
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Re: Better raw than cooked...

Veal, fresh pork sausage, artichokes, asparagus, mushrooms, and the more usual stuff (beef, horse, most vegetables, most anything from the sea).

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Veal, fresh pork sausage, artichokes, asparagus, mushrooms, and the more usual stuff (beef, horse, most vegetables, most anything from the sea).

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I'm surprised by the pork sausage . . . tell us more!
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Old 15.12.2010, 18:38
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You never eat raw pork. You should always make sure an internal temp of 65C is reached to kill Trichinosis etc.
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Old 15.12.2010, 18:45
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You never eat raw pork. You should always make sure an internal temp of 65C is reached to kill Trichinosis etc.
I felt that was too low at first, but Trichonosis doesn't seem to be a hardy survivor...

I had this rule of thumb for 170 for at least 20 minutes...that's been dispelled.

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Old 15.12.2010, 19:00
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You never eat raw pork.
Not true.

"Mettwurst" is raw, fat pork meat and Mettbrötchen are the standard breakfast in large parts of Western Germany.

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I don't like it... but a scallop Sashimi on the other hand...
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Old 15.12.2010, 19:15
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Not true.

"Mettwurst" is raw, fat pork meat and Mettbrötchen are the standard breakfast in large parts of Western Germany.

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I don't like it... but a scallop Sashimi on the other hand...
Well there's a difference between what you can do and what you should do.

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Old 15.12.2010, 19:20
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You never eat raw pork. You should always make sure an internal temp of 65C is reached to kill Trichinosis etc.
Tell that to Ticinese and Italians! I know plenty of both who often eat it.

You can even get it at restaurants around here (listed on the menu, not something you have to ask for specially).

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Old 15.12.2010, 19:45
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Well there's a difference between what you can do and what you should do.

This particular sausage comes from a cold smoked certified trichinosis-free source, legislated for.

Your advice is sound and still stands , the exceptions prove the rule.

People should question their motive when posting contrary. The are some naive who may well remember that pork can be eaten raw and would have forgotten the few exceptional circumstances under which it can be.
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Old 15.12.2010, 19:48
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Raw oysters with LOTS of Piri Piri sauce. It's the best way to eat them and definitely not cooked.
I was offered a sheep's eyeball in the Middle East and our host said it would have been rude to turn it down, so I ate it. It tasted like chicken!
Yup! Been there done that totally agree.
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Old 15.12.2010, 19:50
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Not true.

"Mettwurst" is raw, fat pork meat and Mettbrötchen are the standard breakfast in large parts of Western Germany.

Wikipedia reference-linkMett

I don't like it... but a scallop Sashimi on the other hand...
Hmm fresh Mett on a Brötchen with onions and parsley and fresh ground black pepper.

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Old 15.12.2010, 20:53
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Beam me to Düsseldorf Scotty.
Mettbrötchen from Düsseldorf?! This one gets you a life-long Köln-Kalk Verbot.
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Old 15.12.2010, 21:04
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Mettbrötchen from Düsseldorf?! This one gets you a life-long Köln-Kalk Verbot.
Still not as bad as ordering a Kölsch in DDorf and the first inkling that you have done a major booboo is when the whole pub goes quiet, punctuated by the sound of Alt bier bottles being broken on table tops.
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Old 15.12.2010, 21:14
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Re: Better raw than cooked...

I know it's not logical, but why does raw food give the impression that it has less calories ?

Anyway.... pasta.
Crunchy uncooked pasta.
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Old 15.12.2010, 21:16
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ceviche!! yes. yum....
Ditto, got me a book on Ceviche done some stuff and waddya know! Delicious..
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Old 15.12.2010, 21:26
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I felt that was too low at first, but Trichonosis doesn't seem to be a hardy survivor...

I had this rule of thumb for 170 for at least 20 minutes...that's been dispelled.

°F °C Minimum Time
120 49 21 hours
122 50.0 9.5 hours
124 51.1 4.5hours
126 52.2 2 hours
128 53.4 1 hours
130 54.5 30 minutes
132 55.6 15 minutes
134 56.7 6 minutes
136 57.8 3 minutes
138 58.9 2 minutes
140 60.0 1 minute
142 61.1 1 minute
144 62.2 Instant
Here's a piece my brother wrote about trich . . .

http://londonfood.typepad.com/stuff/...vide_loco.html
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Re: Better raw than cooked...

Interesting.

I've often eaten Pata Negra pork fillet, which is best undercooked.

Sausages, burgers etc should always be cooked thoroughly because they are a chopped
product and so have a larger surface area on which bacteria can multiply quicker.
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Here's a piece my brother wrote about trich . . .

http://londonfood.typepad.com/stuff/...vide_loco.html
Are all your family gourmands ?
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Old 15.12.2010, 22:45
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Are all your family gourmands ?
My brother's a chef, but he has a science background, hence his detailed food prep knowledge.
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