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Can anybody explain me the Nespresso thing? I went to one of their flagship shops lately to buy some stuff for a friend living abroad and I simply don't get it: I do not drink coffee as much as most others in my office, but if I do so, I like to have quality. Quality means for me: freshly ground quality beans. Instant coffee was for me always for the people who need their cafein fix. Nespresso does not at all taste bad, probably the best instant coffee. But still not the thing I consider "luxury", but that's exactly what the shops suggest: From the packaging to the store design to the full product range of machines - the entire thing is marketed as a luxury product. The store is of course on the high street... but it remains bloody instant coffee.

I guess having a competitor like Denner selling knock-offs is actually more harming the marketing than the sales of the capsules...
I think it is quite nice to have very small amount of a lot of different taste. I don't have one of those machine. I would like it, maybe... but the amount of garbage it produce is a big turn off for me. I drink Instant Coffee at home because I am the only one who drinks coffee and I am too lazy to clean the machine each time...

My mother has a Nespresso kind of machine but she has this cup she puts what ever coffee she likes in it and she can use and re-use it. So no garbage and fresh ground coffee in.
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Old 15.03.2011, 18:44
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Can anybody explain me the Nespresso thing? I went to one of their flagship shops lately to buy some stuff for a friend living abroad and I simply don't get it: I do not drink coffee as much as most others in my office, but if I do so, I like to have quality. Quality means for me: freshly ground quality beans. Instant coffee was for me always for the people who need their cafein fix. Nespresso does not at all taste bad, probably the best instant coffee. But still not the thing I consider "luxury", but that's exactly what the shops suggest: From the packaging to the store design to the full product range of machines - the entire thing is marketed as a luxury product. The store is of course on the high street... but it remains bloody instant coffee.

I guess having a competitor like Denner selling knock-offs is actually more harming the marketing than the sales of the capsules...
IMHO these capsules are just a way to package the cheap stuff and pretend it's somehow something better so you can sell it at a high price. For real taste there's still no beating the freshly ground stuff that'be been through a high pressure machine. If you just want a quick caffeine fix, then instant coffee is just as good.
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IMHO these capsules are just a way to package the cheap stuff and pretend it's somehow something better so you can sell it at a high price. For real taste there's still no beating the freshly ground stuff that'be been through a high pressure machine. If you just want a quick caffeine fix, then instant coffee is just as good.
Sorry, must disagree with you there. For an "Englander" Instant coffee is dehydrated coffee granules (Nescafe etc) and it is horrible. I am no fan of Nespresso but I did "inherit" 2 of their machines when I came here and the coffee is at least real ground coffee, just prepacked in these capsules. Of course it is not as good as freshly ground coffee, but the machines are handy and easy to use. I do hate having to pay 50 raps per coffee though and have played around with all sorts of tricks to try to re-use the capsules with my own ground beans (without much success)

I for one am glad that Denner have at least won a partial victory that allows them to re-stock their version and at about half the price. Even that though is still a lot more expensive than buying beans and freshly grinding them each morning. If I had more time I would love to be able to do this.
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Old 15.03.2011, 19:16
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Re: "Nespresso-like" capsules in Denner

For those of you interested in reading the decision of the Handelsgericht St. Gallen (in German). The following site has a click-thru to the decision:
http://www.walderwyss.com/en/news-an...yssnews_16.asp
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Can anybody explain me the Nespresso thing? I went to one of their flagship shops lately to buy some stuff for a friend living abroad and I simply don't get it: I do not drink coffee as much as most others in my office, but if I do so, I like to have quality. Quality means for me: freshly ground quality beans. Instant coffee was for me always for the people who need their cafein fix. Nespresso does not at all taste bad, probably the best instant coffee. But still not the thing I consider "luxury", but that's exactly what the shops suggest: From the packaging to the store design to the full product range of machines - the entire thing is marketed as a luxury product. The store is of course on the high street... but it remains bloody instant coffee.

I guess having a competitor like Denner selling knock-offs is actually more harming the marketing than the sales of the capsules...
Nespresso in capsules is NOT instant coffee!
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Old 15.03.2011, 19:43
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but it remains bloody instant coffee.
It is not instant coffee at all, rather it is ground coffee pre-packaged into capsule. Instant coffee is pre-made coffee that has been dried by any of various means, and contains no ground coffee.

Nice idea, but the per-dose cost is high. Fine if you don't drink much coffee.

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Old 15.03.2011, 19:48
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I for one am glad that Denner have at least won a partial victory that allows them to re-stock their version and at about half the price. Even that though is still a lot more expensive than buying beans and freshly grinding them each morning. If I had more time I would love to be able to do this.
Yes, but I did see a how on TSI a couple weeks ago where they did blind taste tests between Nesspresso and the various clones (Denner, plus two others). Denner came in last place, the other two clones were only slightly better, but the Nespresso got twice the score.

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Re: "Nespresso-like" capsules in Denner

So what is the results? Is someone did find the capsule at Denner and tried them?
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Re: "Nespresso-like" capsules in Denner

I bought some from Denner on Tuesday. I saw 4 varieties but bought just the Espresso Milano. For me it is not as nice as the Nespresso, as it just doesn't seem to froth up as much and give you the creamy texture I like.

The problem could maybe in the design of the capsule, as I have notice that the Denner variety seem to have tiny holes in the bottom and Nespresso don't.

Anyway, this is just my opinion. Try for yourselves....
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Re: "Nespresso-like" capsules in Denner

After the court case, followed by empty shelves due to selling out, my local Denner advised that they would have a delivery yesterday. So in I went and snapped up three boxes - wish I hadn't.

First off Denner's packing is huge. I estimate 2550cc (17cm x 15 cm x 10) box for 12 capsules against Nestlé's 343cc (28cm x 2.5cm x 2.5cm) for 10 of their capsules.

This is because each Denner capsule is individually packed, like dishwasher tabs. This is because the capsules are not air-tight as on opening the packing one is greeted with the fragrance of coffee. They are plastic not aluminium like Nespresso ones.

In the Nespresso machine the Denner plastic capsules make hard work of filling an espresso cup. After an initial gush, the coffee comes out drip by drop. I ever wonder if they will break the pump. The coffee takes so long to come out that it is too cool by the time it comes to drinking it.

Finally and most importantly: what does it taste like? I bought three different types of the four on offer and they all taste poor - weak and more like hot water than coffee with little aroma.

Sorry Denner, nice try. But for the saving of about 20 rappen a cup, I'll stick with Nespresso thanks...
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Re: "Nespresso-like" capsules in Denner

They did a test on RSI a few months back, and the Denner ones came in last place, with two others close by, and the Nespresso came in first with twice the points.

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Re: "Nespresso-like" capsules in Denner

i'm in zürich and haven't seen the capsules in denner here yet. when in geneva a week or so ago, i went in to a denner and asked if they had any. the lady giggled and was like - "yes we will be carrying them, but as for when they actually arrive in our store,... your guess is as good as mine !" so i guess we wait...
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Re: "Nespresso-like" capsules in Denner

As Denner announced (in german) on 5. April, they start selling the capsules in the German speaking part of Switzerland. They will extend the sales to French and Italian speaking parts in the next months.
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In the Nespresso machine the Denner plastic capsules make hard work of filling an espresso cup. After an initial gush, the coffee comes out drip by drop. I ever wonder if they will break the pump. The coffee takes so long to come out that it is too cool by the time it comes to drinking it.

Finally and most importantly: what does it taste like? I bought three different types of the four on offer and they all taste poor - weak and more like hot water than coffee with little aroma.

Sorry Denner, nice try. But for the saving of about 20 rappen a cup, I'll stick with Nespresso thanks...
Totally agree. Hubby brought one box home, just to give it a try. I knew it would be different to the usual choice of Nespresso (we drink the Lungo variety of Nespresso capsules). Different would have been okay, drip by drip I watched the machine, and the end result was just awful. I am wondering if I can give back the rest of the box and get a refund. Should be interesting. I will stick with Nespresso.
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Re: "Nespresso-like" capsules in Denner

tried denner's ethiopian dream this morning. FAIL!
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Re: "Nespresso-like" capsules in Denner

Just wanted to chime in about these Denner knock offs. I tried the initial offering from Denner last year with my nespresso machine, thought I didn't have the pressure problems others here are describing, the coffee did taste terrible. So that was that.

But my wife recently picked up a dozen from the next iteration, with four different varieties this time. She was given them at work, so I don't know how old they are or if Denner is still making them. Again, no pressure problems, coffee comes out fast and hot like the normal nespresso capsules. I'm not sure if Denner is trying harder to use higher quality coffee now, but these coffees don't taste too bad. Definitely drinkable, especially if you take a cube of sugar in your espresso. They aren't as good as the real thing, but I can drink them in a pinch.
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Just wanted to chime in about these Denner knock offs. I tried the initial offering from Denner last year with my nespresso machine, thought I didn't have the pressure problems others here are describing, the coffee did taste terrible. So that was that.

But my wife recently picked up a dozen from the next iteration, with four different varieties this time. She was given them at work, so I don't know how old they are or if Denner is still making them. Again, no pressure problems, coffee comes out fast and hot like the normal nespresso capsules. I'm not sure if Denner is trying harder to use higher quality coffee now, but these coffees don't taste too bad. Definitely drinkable, especially if you take a cube of sugar in your espresso. They aren't as good as the real thing, but I can drink them in a pinch.
Neither are Nespresso capsules
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Neither are Nespresso capsules
Yes, all things considered.

But, as a lazy Nespresso drinker, I've wandered down a path of convenience and compromise, and refuse to go back.
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Can anybody explain me the Nespresso thing?

From the packaging to the store design to the full product range of machines - the entire thing is marketed as a luxury product. The store is of course on the high street... but it remains bloody instant coffee.
Sorry to break the illusion my friend but it's not instant coffee, it's the real roast and ground deal. I was on a tour of a factory that makes the capsules and saw what goes into them, no Nescafe freeze dried stuff anywhere near the place
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Re: "Nespresso-like" capsules in Denner

Hello,

I just bought a second-hand Nespresso machine and I was wondering about these capsules. Do they still sell them? How much do they cost?

About the official Nespresso capsules, where do you recommend buying them? is there a difference in the price from one place to another, or do they have a fixed price by Nestle? I live in Geneva so perhaps I could buy them in France, does anyone know if they are cheaper there?

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