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Old 04.03.2011, 22:38
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You can also buy stock in powder form from the Coop "fine food" range that does not contain MSG - chicken, fish, vegetable or beef
So what does it contain?
Genuine question BTW

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About Me: LeeAnn Mullen has been a freelance writer since 2006. She focuses her writing primarily on business, technology, travel and food. Mullen has a Bachelor of Arts in journalism from Kent State University and an Associate of Science in information systems management from American Public University.

Leeann Mullen is a freelance writer from Cleveland, Ohio. Mullen started freelancing full time in 2008 and has since been published on AOL, Yahoo, HelloMetro (HelloCleveland), Helium and Demand Media. She has also worked for two local newspapers. Mullen holds a bachelor's degree in English and is continuing her education in business management as she someday plans on opening an eco-friendly coffee house.

I'm missing the PhD, or research credentials there. A BA doesn't really cut it. Or quoted sources - which would normally be named and referenced. So it's anecdotal, appealing to the audience she writes for... just like The Sun, Or Nuts, or Razzle
Or am I meant to believe what she writes because she is a journalist - once again you are all free to live you lives but if you start trusting everyone with a journalism qualification , you may find yourself in trouble :-)

Anyway, I'm done with trying to reason.

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Old 04.03.2011, 23:04
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So what does it contain?
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About Me: LeeAnn Mullen has been a freelance writer since 2006. She focuses her writing primarily on business, technology, travel and food. Mullen has a Bachelor of Arts in journalism from Kent State University and an Associate of Science in information systems management from American Public University.

Leeann Mullen is a freelance writer from Cleveland, Ohio. Mullen started freelancing full time in 2008 and has since been published on AOL, Yahoo, HelloMetro (HelloCleveland), Helium and Demand Media. She has also worked for two local newspapers. Mullen holds a bachelor's degree in English and is continuing her education in business management as she someday plans on opening an eco-friendly coffee house.

I'm missing the PhD, or research credentials there. A BA doesn't really cut it. Or quoted sources - which would normally be named and referenced. So it's anecdotal, appealing to the audience she writes for... just like The Sun, Or Nuts, or Razzle
Or am I meant to believe what she writes because she is a journalist - once again you are all free to live you lives but if you start trusting everyone with a journalism qualification , you may find yourself in trouble :-)

Anyway, I'm done with trying to reason.
So, why are you bothering? No-one is trying to prevent YOU from continuing to eat it.

If you really feel so strongly about it, I am surprised that you have yet to post an accredited piece in its favour by someone with the relevant PhD or research credentials.

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Old 04.03.2011, 23:20
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Re: Aromat

For most people MSG can be eaten without side effects, but for those who suffer from allergies, it can be a significant problem. Many restaurants add it without your knowledge. My wife can no longer eat at restaurants for fear of suffering an allergic reaction, which includes massive outbreak of red rashes all over her hands and super elevated blood pressure and heart rates, with rashes lasting for days.
I have started noticing problems like indigestion when eating it due to a slow but steady intolerance.

http://www.theroot.com/views/msg-still-bad-you

Fact is it is most likely not a life threatener, but it can be seriously debilitating to leading a normal life in terms of being able to eat where one wants when restaurants add it without notice. We have noticed some restaurants saying 'no MSG', eaten there and 2 minutes later after consumption massive reactions. Its not fun.

Its also not fun having to check every packaged item on the shelf when shopping.

To the vast majority who are not affected, thats great, would never want to argue against the pleasure and enjoyment of it, each to their own. However it is very easy to cast stones at those with problems with it, without understanding what it is like to not be able to have choice of eating without restriction.
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Old 04.03.2011, 23:47
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So, why are you bothering? No-one is trying to prevent YOU from continuing to eat it.
Of course not, that would be absur..oh wait.

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I personally believe that MSG should be univerally banned as a poisonous substance
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Old 05.03.2011, 01:11
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I never heard of aromat before I came on this forum...

I have at least 20ish differents spices and I cook like I paint... A little bit of this, a little bit of that, let's taste. Hum... a bit more of this... Something is missing, let me see.... Oh, there we go!

I am not good at following recipes either, I find it quite boring. I look at the ingredients and I fit it with what I have and what I like.

Attitude coming from my Mother-in-law who teach me to cook Turkish food without any measurement beside a glass to mesure, taste to test and touch to get the proper texture. I have not much kitchen tools (2) beside my hands to mixed.

I am still learning thought...
Yes, I for my fairly limited cooking use about a dozen different spices, but not Aromat. I however use an Aromat (rather the liquid form) in simple restaurants and canteens to improve soups.
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Old 05.03.2011, 05:07
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Re: Aromat

MSG is Monosodium Glutamate. Designed as a food additive to enhance flavor. Safe if ingested in small quantities but gets the same flack as Saccharin due to studies in mice using rediculous quantities. All in moderation unless a person is allergic to it. Because someone is claiming they are allergic since it was present in their food is questionable as there are other compounds in their food so it is subjective. Give them a spoonful alone and they have a reaction, I would agree it may mean they have some type of allergy or negative response.
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Old 05.03.2011, 05:08
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Re: Aromat

Love the stuff by the way. Great on Eggs and potatoes for breakfast!!!
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To respond to an earlier request, here is just one link talking about MSG and the effects, there are many more:

http://www.ehow.com/about_5432119_he...glutamate.html
We used to buy a natural one- I think from Coop that had no MSG but we are all hooked on Aromat, eggs, mayonnaise- yum! My husband stocks upon it and I hide it; I only use it on limited occasions. I never put it on the table.
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Old 05.03.2011, 11:14
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So what does it contain?
Genuine question BTW

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The chicken stock contains:

salt
glucose syrup
yeast extract
sugar
aroma ()
chicken fat (3%)
chicken powder (1%) (made from chicken skin, chicken meat, "pouletfond", salt and rosemary extract)
caramelised sugar
acidifier (E270)
rosemary extract
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Old 05.03.2011, 11:17
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Re: Aromat

aroma <> aromat
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Old 05.03.2011, 11:32
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aroma <> aromat
"aroma" should be translated into "flavouring" - forgot to translate thsi from Swiss-German to English

...and no, it does not mean that it is Aromat as the producer would legally have to list the ingredients of aromat as well (which it has not) and it is MSG free

"aroma" or flavouring simply means that an additional, often synthetic flavour is added - these are usually created by companies like Givaudan. One gets different types: chocolate, meat, etc.; you name it, they have one or several. Additional artificial flavouring is something else I dislike in my food. Its called "cheating"

one even get "natural" flavours which are taken from natural products but can taste like something else, hence even if something says "natural" flavour for something like chocolate, it does not mean that the source of the flavour is chocolate, but could equally be taken from the bark of a tree, for example
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Old 05.03.2011, 12:20
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It's heaven in a small pot !

Basically a spice anchovy paste , that you spread on toast

But only the classy know about it !
Found a recipe, think I'll have to make some up!

(I love anchovies)

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Old 05.03.2011, 16:52
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So, I'm holding my Knorr original Aromat in my hand and reading the ingredients:
Zutaten: Speisesalz, Geschmacksverstaerker ( Natriumglutamat) then perhaps 15 other ingredients listed.

Ingredients are generally listed with the largest volume first. For instance when I buy a pomegranate blueberry mix drink, if I look at the ingredients I may find that apple juice or water is listed first, meaning that the drink is mostly apple juice and water. So with Aromat I can assume that it mostly comprises of table salt and Monosodium Glutamate. This make me wonder if i shouldn't just go and buy a bag of Monosodium Glutamate-my brother used to do this for his Chinese cooking.

I do know that if I eat too much of it then my face swells up. The morning after a Chinese meal I sometimes wake up with a puffy face. I think that I will substitute Garlic salt ( I'll just have to check that garlic salt doesn't include MSG). Whatever it is I crave salty flavourings- I often empty out a bag of chips, just to get to the loose spices at the bottom of the bag.
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As with any substance , all things in moderation. People use salt for cooking, they use water for cooking. Both kill when over-indulged.

Allergies aside, Aromat is harmless when used as a seasoning the same way salt is.
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Because they like them?
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The chicken stock contains:

salt
glucose syrup
yeast extract
sugar
aroma ()
chicken fat (3%)
chicken powder (1%) (made from chicken skin, chicken meat, "pouletfond", salt and rosemary extract)
caramelised sugar
acidifier (E270)
rosemary extract
My chicken stock contains:
  • the carcus of 1 bio chicken
  • 2 sticks of celery
  • 2 leeks
  • 2 carrots
  • 2 bay leafs
  • a few sprigs of fresh parsley & thyme
  • a few whole pepercorns
  • a couple grinds of salt
Cover with water simmer, skim, strain & drain. Easy, peasy, healthy and delicious.
No MSG - No additives!
Freeze in Ice cube trays for later use.
Happy cooking
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Old 05.03.2011, 20:58
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My chicken stock contains:
  • the carcus of 1 bio chicken
  • 2 sticks of celery
  • 2 leeks
  • 2 carrots
  • 2 bay leafs
  • a few sprigs of fresh parsley & thyme
  • a few whole pepercorns
  • a couple grinds of salt
Cover with water simmer, skim, strain & drain. Easy, peasy, healthy and delicious.
No MSG - No additives!
Freeze in Ice cube trays for later use.
Happy cooking
You forgot to add a tomato or two, and two cups of white wine (and maybe a calf's foot)!

Tom

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My chicken stock contains:
  • the carcus of 1 bio chicken
  • 2 sticks of celery
  • 2 leeks
  • 2 carrots
  • 2 bay leafs
  • a few sprigs of fresh parsley & thyme
  • a few whole pepercorns
  • a couple grinds of salt
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You forgot to add a tomato or two, and two cups of white wine (and maybe a calves foot)!

Tom
Thanks for this. I'm actually trying this out right now (no celery but I reckon celeriac will do), but when do I add the MSG and dry it into a fine powder?
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Thanks for this. I'm actually trying this out right now (no celery but I reckon celeriac will do), but when do I add the MSG and dry it into a fine powder?
Yes, celeriac is fine, basically the same, just has more root and less stalk.

You can freeze-dry, and add the MSG and more salt later!

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Old 05.03.2011, 23:34
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Re: Aromat

MSG is a an amino acid, found in lots of proteins, so it is generated in your gut when these proteins are digested. Gelatin is one third glutamate. It is also a neurotransmitter, used in the brain. It is consumed in large amounts in the Far East as soy sauce, fermented fish sauce, etc, with no apparent ill effects. And in Europe as yeast extracts: Marmite; Vegemite and Cenovis, with no apparent ill effects.

Given all this, it is very suprising that people say that they are allergic to it. Indeed, Wikipedia the source of all knowledge ) says that there is no conclusive evidence for such a phenomenon.
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