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Cheap alcohol for party

Hi, a friend of mine is throwing a party in Zurich and we´re thinking about taking the car up to Germany for buying the booze. We´re looking to buy wine, beer and basic spirits for a cheap price.

Any comments on alternatives, pros and cons as well as where to go exactly? Will customs be an issue?
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Re: Cheap alcohol for party

Go to Landi or Denner for cheap drinks, I can't imagine they are that much cheaper in the Eurozone, and you certainly won't get fined or locked up by the Swiss customs for buying too much.
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Old 12.04.2011, 14:44
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This is cheap:

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Like meths without the horrible (purple) after-taste.
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Denner for the beer, cheap wine is pointless as noone will drink it.
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Re: Cheap alcohol for party

Only if it tastes like cheap wine. I would by no means call myself a wine snob, but I appreciate a good wine. However, I'm less fussy at a party. The 3l box of red they sell at Denner actually goes down quite easily.
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Denner for the beer, cheap wine is pointless as noone will drink it.
I will .
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Re: Cheap alcohol for party

Im having a party NOW!
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Only if it tastes like cheap wine. I would by no means call myself a wine snob, but I appreciate a good wine. However, I'm less fussy at a party. The 3l box of red they sell at Denner actually goes down quite easily.
The Barbera they sell for <CHF 3/liter is also good as a table wine, hard to find anything better for less than 2X the price. Goes down well, and no hangover.

Alcohol, you can get 95% pure for EUR 9 / liter in Italy. For a party, that's what I'd get as you are limited to 1L/pp.

For what it'll cost you in time, fuel and customs duty (unless you fill a bus with people aged 17+) whatever you'll save will be negligible.

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Re: Cheap alcohol for party

You can also transform the cheap red in a lovely sangria, with a little help from a few fruits and a bit of bubbly water.

Mix 1 bottle dry red, 1 lemon, 1 lime, 1 orange in slices, 1/2 c. lemon juice, 1/2 cup orange juice. Some ppl add 1/2 cup triple sec (orange liqueur). Sugar to taste. Top with bubbly water (henniez rouge, for the extra sparkle).

You can also add 1 apple, cubed. Marinate the fruits and the wine, add the water at the last momnet.

As for quantities, if you come in with 3 or 4 bottles, you declare them and most of the time, they'll wave you through. If you have more, they'll ask you to step out and go pay duty on that (still not extremely expensive).

All that will work fine, unless you are planning a truckload of booze.
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Any comments on alternatives, pros and cons as well as where to go exactly? Will customs be an issue?
Germany isn't massively cheaper than Denner, but you're only allowed to bring in 1 liter of liquor and 2 liters of weaker alcohol per person duty-free. Anything beyond that you have to pay customs on, which completely obliterates the savings.

The only things I buy in Germany are things I can't get here. For everyday stuff, it's largely not worth the hassle.
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Re: Cheap alcohol for party

Buy cheap alcohol from Denner and then mix it with tap water. Can't go cheaper than that.
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Germany isn't massively cheaper than Denner, but you're only allowed to bring in 1 liter of liquor and 2 liters of weaker alcohol per person duty-free. Anything beyond that you have to pay customs on, which completely obliterates the savings.

The only things I buy in Germany are things I can't get here. For everyday stuff, it's largely not worth the hassle.
It's worth buying meat - if you are in Germany anyway.
It's pointless driving there for 500gr of beef per person, I agree.

If it's already marinated, the tax-free amount of meat per person increases to 3.5kg (which is also the limit for pure, unmarinated chicken-meat).

Cinema is also cheaper. And hair-cuts.
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Looking at
http://www.ezv.admin.ch/zollinfo_pri...x.html?lang=de
I see that the tariff for wine only seems to be 0.60 CHF per liter (and 8% VAT of course, so you have to ask for an "Ausfuhrschein" or you can't reclaim the 19% German VAT).
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Germany isn't massively cheaper than Denner, but you're only allowed to bring in 1 liter of liquor and 2 liters of weaker alcohol per person duty-free. Anything beyond that you have to pay customs on, which completely obliterates the savings.

The only things I buy in Germany are things I can't get here. For everyday stuff, it's largely not worth the hassle.
Germany isn't massively cheaper??? I just had a look at Kaufland.de, the website of a medium priced supermarket. In my home branch they currently offer:

- cradle of beer, e.g. Warsteiner, 20x05 litre: 10 EUR
- fernet branca, 0,7 litre: 10 EUR
- Freixenet, 0.75 litre 3.99 EUR
- Pommery champaign, 0.75 litre: 25 EUR
...

So how much is the customs then?
http://www.ezv.admin.ch/zollinfo_pri...x.html?lang=de
Per litre of beer: 25 Rappen.
Per litre of wine: 60 Rappen.

Do the math: For a party it makes sense. Let alone for the availability of "good stuff": I once organized a drink where I knew some Czech people would come. Pilsner Urquell and Budvar are in Germany available in the same 20x0.5 litre cradles for nearly the same price as local beer. Here at Coop they charge you through the roof per bottle...

If I was the OP, I'd make the trip. As a result you can make the same sangria described above with cava instead of terrible wine and get faster drunk while having less head ache...

P.S: If you declare it, you can even get the German VAT back - the difference is much more than the Swiss VAT plus customs!
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Germany isn't massively cheaper than Denner, but you're only allowed to bring in 1 liter of liquor and 2 liters of weaker alcohol per person duty-free. Anything beyond that you have to pay customs on, which completely obliterates the savings.
Actually, not at all true on wine.

On wine, instead of paying the local VAT of 21% or so (depending on country, but that's what it is in France or Italy, who buys German wine?), you pay the much lower Swiss 8%, + 0.30 - 0.50/liter, which on average totals about 2/3 of the foreign VAT, so it is actually cheaper to export it to CH than drink it in the country it was bought in!

Alcohol, though has a much higher duty, so isn't normally worth it for extra amounts.

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Do the math: For a party it makes sense. Let alone for the availability of "good stuff": I once organized a drink where I knew some Czech people would come. Pilsner Urquell and Budvar are in Germany available in the same 20x0.5 litre cradles for nearly the same price as local beer. Here at Coop they charge you through the roof per bottle...
Our Denner in Seebach has 20x0.5L Budvar for just less than 20CHF. Why the hell would you drive to germany?

Do it for meat, not for the piss it just aint worth it imo
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Our Denner in Seebach has 20x0.5L Budvar for just less than 20CHF.
Are you sure? Are you talking about about bottled beer? I guess you are talking about cans - which only homeless and Americans buy. I do not serve that to guests at a party. Maybe I am too "old European".

A 33cl bottle Budvar at Coop is 1.90 CHF. Any 50cl bottle of beer at my local Getränkemarkt here (www.rio-getraenke.ch) is at least around 1.50 CHF. 10-20 EUR in Germany vs 30-50 CHF is absolutely worth it in my eyes.

And again as people continuously comment on "you have to pay customs": I did before and the Swiss customs is much lower than the German VAT you can then deduct.
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Are you sure? Are you talking about about bottled beer? I guess you are talking about cans - which only homeless and Americans buy. I do not serve that to guests at a party. Maybe I am too "old European".
Most people in Italy and Ticino buy cans over bottles as well.

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Re: Cheap alcohol for party

If you want a good party starter recipe, here is an old favourite and I guarantee no guest will drink more than two!
Sparkling wine (cremant de bourgogne) abt eur5 per bottle
pousse rapiere from armagnac region
vodka
malibu
drop of the three with a glass of cremant and serve with ice.
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Are you sure? Are you talking about about bottled beer? I guess you are talking about cans - which only homeless and Americans buy. I do not serve that to guests at a party. Maybe I am too "old European".
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Yes I was talking about cans. Who the crap would care what it comes in at a party? Sure I like my good beers as much as the next guy, but for a party where a guy is asking to save money, frugalness is paramount.

And tbh ive never met even a german who would care what the beer came in..

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Only if it tastes like cheap wine. I would by no means call myself a wine snob, but I appreciate a good wine. However, I'm less fussy at a party. The 3l box of red they sell at Denner actually goes down quite easily.
Ya know what else comes good with the 3lbox?
If you put it in the club-soda despenser and carbonate the stuff, then it drinks like good Aldi bubbly.

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