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Old 17.04.2011, 12:32
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Hormone/Antibiotic/Pesticide-free food please?

Hello,
I live in Aeschi and have been wondering for the longest time how the organic regulations here in Switzerland work. I would love to support any local farmer in the area and so far I only know of Rosegghof farms in Solothurn that produces organic meat and vegetables. I'm not as interested in pork since we eat it rarely (not good for you) but if anyone has information on other meats such as beef, chicken, turkey, or lamb I'd love to hear anything at all

As far as NaturaPlan, NaturaFarm, etc, which is sold in Coop, what are their regulations? I see terms such as free-range, etc but those mean nothing to me since I come from the land of "people cutting as many corners as they can just to get the label 'organic' (the U.S.A.)" :-) Using the term "natural" is even more deceiving...I was at a market in Solothurn looking at lotions and cremes sold by a Swiss-made company claiming "natural" ingredients until I read the ingredients to include: sodium lauryl sulfates, parabens, propylene glycol, etc. that are not "natural" by any means! Anyway, back to the meat...

To me, "certified organic" means the animals must be fed organic feed/grass, that has not been sprayed with pesticides, and animals given no hormones or antibiotics. From what I have learned, more antibiotics are needed as a result of hormone usage. Take cows, for example. Dairy cows are being pumped with so many hormones to increase their milk production (more money right?) and therefore their udders are twice the size they normally would be. This causes undue stress on the cows as well as cracked skin on these swelling udders that becomes infected, and guess what?, require antibiotics to treat the infection.

With this said, if anyone knows of such farms that fall under these organic conditions I would LOVE, LOVE to know!

Thank you to all
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Re: Hormone/Antibiotic/Pesticide-free food please?

Hi Miss Zula,

If you want to buy organic food, look for the "Bio Swiss bud" logo. Bio Swiss in collaboration with the Research Institute of Organic Agriculture (FiBL http://www.fibl.org/en/switzerland.html) have probably the strictest rules on organic food production. No hormones, no pesticides, no preventative antibiotic. But there's much, much more, like environment and soil protection, sustainability and diversity protection.
Check out their website and download their regulations in order to get full information about it.
http://www.bio-suisse.ch/en/library/.../standards.php
Controlling is done by independent organisations like BioInspecta etc.

As for a direct marketer you're looking for: maybe BioSwiss has a list with registered producers? Also maybe try farmer's markets in your local area or other market events in order to find more information about direct marketing farmers. If a producer farms according to the BioSwiss guideline, he will advertise this for sure.

Oh, and if you want real natural cosmetics make them yourself. It's not as complicated as many might think.

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Old 18.04.2011, 14:12
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Re: Hormone/Antibiotic/Pesticide-free food please?

Why do you say that?

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I'm not as interested in pork since we eat it rarely (not good for you)
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I'm guessing her idea of 'pork' is 'bacon'.
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Re: Hormone/Antibiotic/Pesticide-free food please?

But how can something that tastes so good be bad for you

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I'm guessing her idea of 'pork' is 'bacon'.

My guess would be that so many people do not cook these days, and get used to eating meat with less lengthy cooking requirements, the "opportunity" for trichinosis counts as making pork unhealthy?

(I did read something when looking for info on trichinosis that said something about pork fat being stored as pork fat in our bodies rather than going through the chemical changes converting it to human fat but... well... seems a bit out there. Perhaps someone with more education in such things can confirm or deny the truth of this)
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Re: Hormone/Antibiotic/Pesticide-free food please?

Trichonosis has all but been eradicated, chefs now say that Pork no longer has to be well done to be safe. I do make sure it is well cooked though as I don't trust the purveyers of food p0rn.

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(I did read something when looking for info on trichinosis that said something about pork fat being stored as pork fat in our bodies rather than going through the chemical changes converting it to human fat but... well... seems a bit out there. Perhaps someone with more education in such things can confirm or deny the truth of this)
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Re: Hormone/Antibiotic/Pesticide-free food please?

Natura is a Coop branding thing.
NaturaPlan with the Bio logo are bio products.
NaturaFarm are products produced locally free range products.

http://www.coop.ch/pb/site/common/no...Len/index.html

Of course you can not eat pork if you don't want to. But you can't really make the blanket statement that pork is unhealthy. There are some pork products like bacon that are unhealthy when eaten in large quantities. But other products/cuts are low in fat.
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Re: Hormone/Antibiotic/Pesticide-free food please?

Funny, I try to avoid beef, not pork, due to some scandals over powdered proteins cows used to be fed and infected in some European countries.

But, back to OP - I think the best info would be in your local health food store. I am sure they will either deal produce themselves, or will direct you to a farmer in your location. They usually collect info on food, chemical free cosmetiss, environmental issues, massages, hippie services, etc.
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My guess would be that so many people do not cook these days, and get used to eating meat with less lengthy cooking requirements, the "opportunity" for trichinosis counts as making pork unhealthy?

(I did read something when looking for info on trichinosis that said something about pork fat being stored as pork fat in our bodies rather than going through the chemical changes converting it to human fat but... well... seems a bit out there. Perhaps someone with more education in such things can confirm or deny the truth of this)
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Trichonosis has all but been eradicated, chefs now say that Pork no longer has to be well done to be safe. I do make sure it is well cooked though as I don't trust the purveyers of food p0rn.
Trichinosis is very rare, but does exist. That said, it was never necessary to cook to well done (old recipes called for 180F!!!): trichinosis is killed at 137 degrees F, which is about medium-rare, at which point it becomes as safe to eat as beef cooked to that temp. When I cook pork, I usually shoot for an internal temp of about 145-150F, which carryover heat then takes up another 5 degrees to a perfect medium.

In Germany, they make Mett, which is chopped lean pork eaten raw on toast. (It's delicious, by the way.) Only specially trained butchers can sell raw Mett, and it's made from specially-inspected pork that is confirmed free of trichinosis.
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