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Eating-out Low-Carb (Good calories, bad calories)

After following Gary Taubes' review 'Good Calories, Bad Calories', I'm going low-carb (actually no-carb if possible). http://www.amazon.com/Good-Calories-.../dp/1400040787

Thing is, it's actually hard to follow when eating out. Has anyone any tips?
So far, I have only two:
1. Custom Omelette at Paddy Reilly's
2. Grilled meat to order at Manor (with green leafy veg beilagen).

But I'll quickly get bored of just two...
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Old 18.04.2011, 15:26
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Re: Eating-out Low-Carb (Good calories, bad calories)

You can add molten cheese to your list.
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Old 18.04.2011, 15:30
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Re: Eating-out Low-Carb (Good calories, bad calories)

Plenty of that in Zurich. But you gotta mop it up with bread... If there was such a thing as Chinese-Swiss Fondue (or is that Sino-Swiss) where you dip meat in cheese, then... I don't know of such a place though.
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Old 18.04.2011, 15:42
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Re: Eating-out Low-Carb (Good calories, bad calories)

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After following Gary Taubes' review 'Good Calories, Bad Calories', I'm going low-carb (actually no-carb if possible). http://www.amazon.com/Good-Calories-.../dp/1400040787

Thing is, it's actually hard to follow when eating out. Has anyone any tips?
Yeah - don't bother.

Either ditch the diet, or make an exception when you eat out, or accept that it's going to be boring.

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So far, I have only two:
1. Custom Omelette at Paddy Reilly's
2. Grilled meat to order at Manor (with green leafy veg beilagen).

But I'll quickly get bored of just two...
Yup.
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Old 18.04.2011, 15:43
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Re: Eating-out Low-Carb (Good calories, bad calories)

You can dip raw veggies into the fondue. If you want to be successful you need to get out of the mindset "you have to mop it up with bread" and look to be creative and actively think of ways to replace rosti, potatoes etc with alternatives.

I'd also look at sausages/wurst here - they have very little to zero non-meat additive are so are basically zero-carbs. Italian restaurants are great. The proper ones have fantastic fish and meat main courses with veggies on the side. Check out Liguria on Niederdorfstrasse - a personal favourite of mine. Also, mexican restaurants have great sizzling fish and peppers which are very low carbs.
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Old 18.04.2011, 15:44
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Yeah - don't bother.

Either ditch the diet, or make an exception when you eat out, or accept that it's going to be boring.



Yup.
Don't think so. All the good stuff is low carb really. Pasta is essentially cheap and nasty - it's the sauce which is where the flavour is, and that's low carb.

All the expensive, delicious things are low carb: sashimi platters, lobster, roast beef, osso bucco etc.
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Old 18.04.2011, 15:45
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Re: Eating-out Low-Carb (Good calories, bad calories)

Any mediteranean restaurant, greek, turkish,lebanese, moroccan etc serve mezes or their equivalent and you can then choose the non carb options on each service, which makes things more interesting and makes variety better
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Old 18.04.2011, 15:48
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Don't think so. All the good stuff is low carb really. Pasta is essentially cheap and nasty - it's the sauce which is where the flavour is, and that's low carb.

All the expensive, delicious things are low carb: sashimi platters, lobster, roast beef, osso bucco etc.
For me personally, eating meat until it comes out of your ears gets incredibly dull.

I wouldn't put myself through it voluntarily.
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For me personally, eating meat until it comes out of your ears gets incredibly dull.

I wouldn't put myself through it voluntarily.
I think it's a weight-loss thing (similar to Atkins). Eating low or no carbs is supposed to make you lose weight.
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Old 18.04.2011, 15:58
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I know what it is. But, as I said, I wouldn't bother personally.

What's going to happen to the OP if he has a meal with a piece of bread occasionally? Is he going to explode or something?

To the OP: What the others said: Greek and Turkish places are your best bet.
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Old 18.04.2011, 16:04
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What's going to happen to the OP if he has a meal with a piece of bread occasionally? Is he going to explode or something?

No, the OP will certainly be fine. However:

1. The Atkins diet is a diet in stages, the final "maintenance" stage actually includes fruits veg, whole grains, yoghurts etc. What I would consider to be a super healthy lifestyle.
2. For many, gaining weight is about a loss of control. Specific rules should fix that.
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er.. yeah.

But it also means you have no energy.
Eating less carbs could be your goal.
Remember, just because you bought it, doesn't mean you have to eat it (ie: finishing your plate- its either wasted on your plate or waisted on your.. waist.). Listen to your body, and the "full" feeling.

And if you ever, in your life, want to start eating "normally" again, all the weight goes on, and more.

The only way to change your weight, is to change your lifestyle.

You're in Zurich.
I hear that there is a really neat running group on Thursdays. http://www.zh3.ch/

There is also one on Tuesdays, http://www.meetup.com/BITCH-H3/
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Re: Eating-out Low-Carb (Good calories, bad calories)

I tried that Atkins diet once, the side effects were shall we say "less than perfectly and sociably desirable"
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er.. yeah.

But it also means you have no energy.
Eating less carbs could be your goal.
Remember, just because you bought it, doesn't mean you have to eat it (ie: finishing your plate- its either wasted on your plate or waisted on your.. waist.). Listen to your body, and the "full" feeling.

And if you ever, in your life, want to start eating "normally" again, all the weight goes on, and more.

The only way to change your weight, is to change your lifestyle.

You're in Zurich.
I hear that there is a really neat running group on Thursdays. http://www.zh3.ch/

There is also one on Tuesdays, http://www.meetup.com/BITCH-H3/
Crikey, I would never start a fad diet - I love my food too much (in all its rich variety) plus I'm a runner and a swimmer already so need the carbs or I tend to flake out and get grumpy if I'm hungry.

But thanks for the running group tip.
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Don't think so. All the good stuff is low carb really. Pasta is essentially cheap and nasty - it's the sauce which is where the flavour is, and that's low carb.

All the expensive, delicious things are low carb: sashimi platters, lobster, roast beef, osso bucco etc.
Do you take your own advice when you go to MacDonalds (a favourite of yours, or so you have argued in the past):

i.e.

1. Buy a Big Mac meal.
2. Throw away the fries.
3. Throw away the bun.
4. Throw away the drink.
5. Throw away the ketchup.

6. Eat the burger meat on it's own.
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Re: Eating-out Low-Carb (Good calories, bad calories)

If I'd never done the Atkins diet, I would never have found out about my food intolerance.

That's got to be worth something!

To the OP: Most Swiss restaurants do a Fitness-Teller which is basically a piece of meat on a bed of salad. That doesn't cut out all the carbohydrates, of course, but it excludes all the starchy ones.
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Crikey, I would never start a fad diet - I love my food too much (in all its rich variety) plus I'm a runner and a swimmer already so need the carbs or I tend to flake out and get grumpy if I'm hungry.

But thanks for the running group tip.
yeah, i know you might not, (your looking far too sexy in that blue outfit anyway ) but pmacaodh seems to be on that band wagon...

and always the perfect opportunity to advertise that drinking group with a running problem.
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Re: Eating-out Low-Carb (Good calories, bad calories)

Oooh, actually, DB talking about "fitness plate" of a piece of meat on a bed of lettuce makes me think of an "all time favorite" of mine... sirloin salad. It's a "normal" garden salad but with about 5oz or so of sliced sirloin (cooked to order) over it.

Not necessarily enough to be the main meal of the day but certainly enough for whichever (afternoon or evening) is the smaller. For me, it feeds my steak craving without the steak cost.

Perhaps something like that could be made with the menu offerings at whichever restaurants you care to patronize.
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Re: Eating-out Low-Carb (Good calories, bad calories)

You can get plenty of carbohydrate from vegetables and fruit, whilst avoiding starch-laden things such as pasta and potatoes.
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That's got to be worth something!

To the OP: Most Swiss restaurants do a Fitness-Teller which is basically a piece of meat on a bed of salad. That doesn't cut out all the carbohydrates, of course, but it excludes all the starchy ones.
That must be a tough one being all intolerant to food an all that
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