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So, for once they've decided to test the tap water for micro pollutants (only one lab can do that in the suisse romande) and it turned out how in some cities you've got up to 14 pesticides of course atrazine is always on the list , medicaments metformine, carbamazepine, paracetomol...
And this is only a selection (the list is non exhaustive) .
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I never ever use tap water for my kettle, or coffee machine and any conneseur (tea,coffee) can tell you how horrible is and destroys the aroma in coffee,tea and what a disaster it is for the machine . I always use spring water for my ice cubes as well , can't stand the awful smell plus the coctail of pesticides, medicaments, phthalates,etc, in my summer slush
Other than your "taste test" have you contacted the lab you mention above to check if your spring water is significantly different?

There is a thing called "the scientific method". Anyone can use it, it is free, and not even particularly difficult to grasp.
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Re: Do you drink tap water?

One could also buy glass bottles

I am not sure if I understand correctly, but the water from public taps (those things available at almost every corner) should be source water? If that is true, drinking them could be the safest option.

I am still concerned about drinking lake water despite drinking it.

Btw, does anyone has an opinion about these (not for drinking but for showering - did not want to open a separate thread)

https://www.amazon.com/chlorine-fluo.../dp/B00J4E4S4C
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Re: Drinking water quality

Ah yes, unnecessary scaremongering makes for great TV, does it not?
I can go better than Yopo, my daughters were born here and have been drinking tap water for 18 and 16 years, respectively. I can only say that the tap water has had a dramatic effect on their mental and physical development; both excel at school, the eldest passed her driving test first time and the youngest is a fair-to-middling footballer. Added to that, they are both well-grounded, popular, level-headed kids. Oh the horror! Where have we gone wrong?

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Old 16.08.2016, 14:28
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Noo.. it's not because I dont like your question . But your question is so off topic, so poor does not even deserve an answer . think of something else and I'll be there for you. )


First time here, what?


Maybe read some of the other threads and you will see a topic often derails. Whatever you think of that .............


The question is actually on topic. If you are so worried about drinking water in Switzerland, you must be interested as well in avoiding any chemical stuff that is in tooth paste, lotions and the like. Or ?
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Re: Drinking water quality

Paddy, individual cases are now a reference ??? Well, my children are beautiful, sporty,healthy ,witty , my daughter's got beautiful blonde curly hair my son is tall and intelligent....hmmmmmmm is it perhaps because of the spring water they've been drinking ?

(to all the others, my comment is a rhetorical question)
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Old 16.08.2016, 14:39
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Paddy, individual cases are now a reference ??? Well, my children are beautiful, sporty,healthy ,witty , my daughter's got beautiful blonde curly hair my son is tall and intelligent....hmmmmmmm is it perhaps because of the spring water they've been drinking ?

(to all the others, my comment is a rhetorical question)
Maybe, but I was just throwing the usual woonatics anecdote back.

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I never ever use tap water for my kettle, or coffee machine and any conneseur (tea,coffee) can tell you how horrible is and destroys the aroma in coffee,tea and what a disaster it is for the machine . I always use spring water for my ice cubes as well , can't stand the awful smell plus the coctail of pesticides, medicaments, phthalates,etc, in my summer slush
What is your source for "spring water"? Where does it come from? In what is it transported? Is it as rigeroulsy monitored as tap water? What is the source of tap water in your commune (spring, ground, lake)? etc.

Here a large test cpomparing bottled vs tap water.
https://www.test.de/Leitungswasser-u...eck-5049737-0/

But in the end is it about taste you cannot argue much. I just cannot stand bottled still water.
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Re: Drinking water quality

Both tap water and bottled water contain dangerously elevated levels of Dihydrogen monoxide, a highly toxic chemical responsible for the deaths of millions each year. In fact, everyone who drinks it will die.
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Re: Drinking water quality

But I will note this:

Patrick Edder, chimiste cantonal, Genève

Alain Donzel, directeur du laboratoire SCITEC Research, à Lausanne

Natalie Chevre , UNIL ecotoxicologist.. different labs .. (and ten other scientists, lab directors that I could name here) are all conspiring , they are scaremongers !!!! ?


Guys, do know that there is a life, freedom outside of the corp.bunkers where they instruct and feed their employees with hate against even all other scientists that exists elsewhere ...?)) oh dear
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Btw, does anyone has an opinion about these (not for drinking but for showering - did not want to open a separate thread)

https://www.amazon.com/chlorine-fluo.../dp/B00J4E4S4C
I have two opinions on these filters:

1. You should start a new thread — this one's for drinking tap water;
2. They're a con and a waste of money. Fluoride is not added to Swiss water so is present, if at all, in negligible quantities. A salt-based water softener would be your best bet to "soften" your shower water.
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Patrick Edder, chimiste cantonal, Genève

Alain Donzel, directeur du laboratoire SCITEC Research, à Lausanne

Natalie Chevre , UNIL ecotoxicologist.. different labs .. (and ten other scientists, lab directors that I could name here) are all conspiring , they are scaremongers !!!! ?
And you still did not manage to name the source of your water. Spring Water Just like most Swiss communes water supply.
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One could also buy glass bottles

I am not sure if I understand correctly, but the water from public taps (those things available at almost every corner) should be source water? If that is true, drinking them could be the safest option.

I am still concerned about drinking lake water despite drinking it.

Btw, does anyone has an opinion about these (not for drinking but for showering - did not want to open a separate thread)

https://www.amazon.com/chlorine-fluo.../dp/B00J4E4S4C
Minimimi,

I'm a bit confused... you'll drink it, but you're concerned about showering in it?

at 59.99$ it is a lot less expensive than a full filter and softener system at the some central point in the plumbing system which would be effective at all taps within the house. You generally get what you pay for.
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REMOVES FLUORIDE & OTHER CHEMICALS - Filters 99.9% of Chlorine, Algae, Dirt, Fluoride, Lead, Chloramine, Bacteria, Arsenic, Chromium, Zinc, Copper, Selenium, Mercury and Heavy Metals and many more chemicals. Shower filter also reduces scum build-up using kdf.
• HEALTHY SKIN - Balances the pH of water. Promotes and maintains smooth, glowing skin, shiny hair, and healthy nails. Effectively reduces hard water and stops itchy and skin after shower
Let's ignore the fact that they don't cite any lab tests confirming these claims.

BRITA is a well known brand in the home water filtration market. How long does it take a Brita jug filter to process a litre of water, have a look at the size of the BRITA inline filters. Now look at the size of the white bit which is doing all the work on the amazon product. Just from an intuitive standpoint, does it make sense to you that this small attachment would be as or more effective than what BRITA is currently marketing? Ignoring the possibility that the shower head device uses magic, but rather some new technology, don't you think BRITA would be all over said technology like a dirty shirt?

Short of electrolysis, gas filtration, and recombination, you aren't going to get 99.9% of whatever impurities out of water, and that device will be larger and more expensive than the thingie you've linked to.

For 59.99 it is cheap, go for it. You'll still have soapscum on the tiles, but if it convinces you that it has eliminated an itchy skin problem then the only thing I can say is: "It must be magic".
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One could also buy glass bottles

I am not sure if I understand correctly, but the water from public taps (those things available at almost every corner) should be source water? If that is true, drinking them could be the safest option.

I am still concerned about drinking lake water despite drinking it.
It depends. You can check the source (ground, spring, lake, mixture) for many communes at http://wasserqualitaet.svgw.ch/index.php?id=760

Lake water from the lake directly? Depends on the lake Lake water from the tap? O.k. as it is filtered, ozone and u.v. treated and sometimes even active charcoal filtred.
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Patrick Edder, chimiste cantonal, Genève

Alain Donzel, directeur du laboratoire SCITEC Research, à Lausanne

Natalie Chevre , UNIL ecotoxicologist.. different labs .. (and ten other scientists, lab directors that I could name here) are all conspiring , they are scaremongers !!!! ?


Guys, do know that there is a life, freedom outside of the corp.bunkers where they instruct and feed their employees with hate against even all other scientists that exists elsewhere ...?)) oh dear
Oh good, a conspiracy theory. I'll get my hat. Is it Friday already?
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No way me or my child are going to drink tap water knowing how it is polluted, with pesticides , with hormones, chlorine and other pollution..
We consume it enough indirectly , in restaurants(cooked meals) , some drinks ..

When I'm making soups , stews etc . I'm using spring water and not that smelly stuff from the tap


NOT polluted. Here the info about our tap water


https://www.stadt-zuerich.ch/dib/de/...werk_moos.html
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What is your source for "spring water"? Where does it come from? In what is it transported? Is it as rigeroulsy monitored as tap water? What is the source of tap water in your commune (spring, ground, lake)? etc.

Here a large test cpomparing bottled vs tap water.
https://www.test.de/Leitungswasser-u...eck-5049737-0/

But in the end is it about taste you cannot argue much. I just cannot stand bottled still water.
I'd be more worried about taking my daily dose of BPA from the plastic bottles widely in use with bottled water.

I wonder why "The European Union and Canada have banned BPA use in baby bottles." hmm strange that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bisphenol_A
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I'd be more worried about taking my daily dose of BPA from the plastic bottles widely in use with bottled water.

I wonder why "The European Union and Canada have banned BPA use in baby bottles." hmm strange that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bisphenol_A


Personally I'm not convinced yet of the risks of BPA in food containers.


Canada might have banned them, but still has problems with keeping tap water consistently potable. Seems to me more of a politically motivated 'please the soccer-mom busy bodies' than anything else.


One could argue that using ozone to disinfect water is extremely dangerous---but it has been working fairly successfully in Switzerland.
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Paddy, individual cases are now a reference ??? Well, my children are beautiful, sporty,healthy ,witty , my daughter's got beautiful blonde curly hair my son is tall and intelligent....hmmmmmmm is it perhaps because of the spring water they've been drinking ?

(to all the others, my comment is a rhetorical question)
Remarkable. Are you sure they are your children?
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Well, my children are beautiful, sporty,healthy ,witty , my daughter's got beautiful blonde curly hair my son is tall and intelligent
And poorer with a larger carbon footprint due to the unnecessary consumption of bottled water. These true believers are awful noisy.

Swiss water hardness map. Darker blue = harder.


I like London tap water. Anything that's been through so many kidneys must be clean.*



* With apologies to TP.
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