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Is there some reason bread from the supermarkets is generally so expensive?......Is there some economic reason for this?
Perhaps to go a little further than the earlier answers, grain is protected with import quotas and/or high duties in Switzerland the same way as meat or dairy products are. Keeps the prices high and a nice little earner for farmers

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......Warburtons Toastie Loaf bread or Asda/Sainsburys Tiger Bread for lunch......
You call that bread....?
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Perhaps to go a little further than the earlier answers, grain is protected with import quotas and/or high duties in Switzerland the same way as meat or dairy products are. Keeps the prices high and a nice little earner for farmers


You call that bread....?
Stop being a snob. You can't beat it for a toasted bacon sarnie!
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hahahahahahaha!

biggest joke EVER!!


even the shittiest, smallest bakery, what ever coporate bakery you check out, or any supermarkets in bumbleficknowhere in germany has bigger, wider and more delicious bread varieties!just because us germans build a target group ZH bakeries do sour dough bread that didnt exist before. so thx god for that! apart from that most bread i find is halbweiss/weiss, ruchbrot styles= sux. for certain bread i have to travel all through zurich and have to be in town way before 6pm...if not, its sold out! loafs are too small and the time it gets stall is too short. switzerland is no bread nation as its no beer and no football nation. word!
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Old 23.05.2011, 14:34
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Stop being a snob. You can't beat it for a toasted bacon sarnie!
OK fair enough. But only then.
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Stop being a snob. You can't beat it for a toasted bacon sarnie!
Hear, hear. All breads have their place. Get the wrong bread and the sandwich is ruined. English loaves are best for bacon, sausage, egg and cress and the humble cucumber sandwiches. Idem the chip buttie. Ditto toast and marmalade or marmite on toast.

Crusty baguettes are meilleur for jambon, steak or jams like strawberry. Sourdough or Ciabatta for cheese, especially grilled cheese. I'm not a fan of focaccia - too greasy for me. With Bratwurst veal sausages it has to be a Bürli and with cream cheese, nothing beats a bagel.

I don't know about 400 to 500 varieties. Wasted on me. My local bakery does a pain vaudois. It's a round, crusty mi-blanc loaf - perfect for mopping up salad dressings and meat juices. I used to love engadiner brot when I was in Zurich, but you can't get down here. Went well with gruyere and cold meat.

My missus makes a great treacle farl. And potato bread, which is awesome with a fry.
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Old 23.05.2011, 15:16
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Re: Bread

I used to love the Warburtons seeded batch, but once you get used to the bread here I'm sure you'll love it for different reasons

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- Big, white, plaited loaf / the normal big, white loaf for sandwiches on the weekend
- Thinner, longer, twisted stick with seeds on for making lots of small bits of toast with honey and cheese on or cut a long section for a baguette
- Round pitta bread (I found them in co-op) for taking to work for lunch (when organised)
- Circular, sectioned, salty bread with a hole in the middle for ripping bits off and dipping in houmous or tearing in half and eating a small sausage sandwich....

Also, get a bread bin, because the loaves seem to go off much quicker, especially if they're not stored well. I also keep a mini sliced 'toast bread' loaf in the freezer in case of emergencies....
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Old 23.05.2011, 15:25
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Stop being a snob. You can't beat it for a toasted bacon sarnie!
But Baboon's right - it's not bread in the real sense of the word. It's made in a fraction of the time and this is made possible by clever additives and four times as much yeast.
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Old 23.05.2011, 15:31
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Hear, hear. All breads have their place.
Indeed.
But I can put jam or honey even on a rye-bread with caraway and coriander.
(Which, when the bread is fresh and from someone who knows his business, is an absolute treat of epic proportions).

I don't believe in the 200-300 number.
Most of them are the same basic dough with different sprinklings of cereals on top.
I'd nail it down to maybe 20-30 differently tasting doughs.

Good bread is really what I miss most here. And yes, good rye-bread is about as easy/difficult to find as Maultaschen in Migros or Coop.
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Stop being a snob. You can't beat it for a toasted bacon sarnie!
OMG, that is soooooo right. Ketchup or Brown Sauce though?
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hahahahahahaha!

biggest joke EVER!!


even the shittiest, smallest bakery, what ever coporate bakery you check out, or any supermarkets in bumbleficknowhere in germany has bigger, wider and more delicious bread varieties! just because us germans build a target group ZH bakeries do sour dough bread that didnt exist before. so thx god for that! apart from that most bread i find is halbweiss/weiss, ruchbrot styles= sux. for certain bread i have to travel all through zurich and have to be in town way before 6pm...if not, its sold out! loafs are too small and the time it gets stall is too short. switzerland is no bread nation as its no beer and no football nation. word!
Hey doughboy! it may interest you to know that all north german mills were using imported wheat this year to make your "special " bread because the local wheat was being used to feed the pigs! this year doesnt look too different either so enjoy the humble pie .
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Old 23.05.2011, 16:34
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How is "good" bread defined? One man's "good" bread is another man's god-awful bread...

My husband and I have differing opinions of bread, I prefer to vary my loaves depending on what I am going to eat with them. For example, eating a hearty soup just asks for a crusty white loaf while a plateful of cheeses and meats needs something wholemeal and grainy (in my opinion).

Many people love the rather robust burli bread roll that is eaten with a sausage from a grill stand but I would find it more palatable to chew through a pair of slippers.

Bread snobbery has plagued me since I left the UK - being English, it seems to give mainland Europeans carte blanche to assume I stuff myself silly on those plastic wrapped square sliced loaves whenever I am back in my local Tesco and must therefore crave them while I am living here. My family never actually bought any of those processed loaves during my lifetime there, preferring to pick up different types of freshly baked loaves from the the bakery in our village.

I choose bread according to what I like and what it is being eaten with, not on the basis that someone might be looking into my trolley and assuming I know nothing about food.
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Exactly..(sorry for taking this OT)...but why do Germans always have to wave their flag (figuratively speaking)?! I think everytime a Volkswagen passes by some of our German forum members they'd probably get a hard on or sing the national anthem.

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OMG, that is soooooo right. Ketchup or Brown Sauce though?
Neither - maple syrup. That's one thing the colonials did get right!
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Exactly..(sorry for taking this OT)...but why do Germans always have to wave their flag (figuratively speaking)?! I think everytime a Volkswagen passes by some of our German forum members, they'd probably get a hard on or sing the national anthem.
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Exactly..(sorry for taking this OT)...but why do Germans always have to wave their flag (figuratively speaking)?! I think everytime a Volkswagen passes by some of our German forum members, they'd probably get a hard on or sing the national anthem.
I don`t think so
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I don`t think so
Yeah, you're right...it's probably a scheduled thing. You know..German precision and all.
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Exactly.......... they'd probably get a hard on or sing the national anthem.
Or more delicately described as a Soul Boner.
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Exactly..(sorry for taking this OT)...but why do Germans always have to wave their flag (figuratively speaking)?! I think everytime a Volkswagen passes by some of our German forum members they'd probably get a hard on or sing the national anthem.
because after years of feeling guilty about WW2 and killing a few mil people the national pride started coming back...i think it was quite evident with the WC in Football few years back...good for them...this is at least what a few of my younger Kraut friends have said....

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