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Old 29.05.2011, 13:33
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Quest for a Bagel

I have been looking high and low for Bagels. I did find some sort of pre-packaged plain, boring looking thing at Migros once, but other than that, it seems impossible to find fresh baked bagels anywhere. One friend even told me, "Bagels are American; they don't exist in Europe."

But in looking at the history of the bagel, it seems logical that there should be some sort of fresh-baked bagel-esque bread product SOMEWHERE in Switzerland!!!

Yesterday I located two different Jewish bakeries in Basel. But alas, neither had bagels.

So.... Has anyone found any bagels in Switzerland?
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Old 29.05.2011, 13:45
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Re: Quest for a Bagel

I miss bagels, too...
I've also seen them for sale at Coop and at Jelmoli, but they are the plain/sesame seed ones. I'm not sure what exactly you're looking for, but I did once run across a bagel shop in downtown Winterthur. Here is the website, in case you're interested:

http://www.bagels.ch/?page=EN10
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Old 29.05.2011, 13:56
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Re: Quest for a Bagel

I have tried the seeded and plain ones from the coop and those are the best i have tried here so far. Not great...but the best so far.
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Old 29.05.2011, 14:02
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Re: Quest for a Bagel

Perennial quest of mine as well. You might find something helpful by searching like this. I bought some fresh from these people when they had a tasting at Orell Fuessli in Zurich recently, and they were very good although they didn't have any whole-wheat ones (which I prefer). Not sure if I would go to the trouble of a bulk order of frozen ones from them though.
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Re: Quest for a Bagel

After 13 years of longing, after 13 years of searching, after 13 years of getting my hopes up only to have them cruelly dashed when once again the 'bagel' I've discovered turns out to be little more than round bread...

... I've come to the conclusion that the only way to satisfy that craving is to hop on a plane.

I have fully adapted to Swiss life in most other ways - but when it comes to bagels, there can be no compromise.

Besides, back home you can get bialys too.



Good luck to all fellow bagel-seekers out there...
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Re: Quest for a Bagel

Peace Foods in Baar makes them from scratch and also supply a lot of the places mentioned here. Or have a try at making them yourself.
You won't be able to replicate bagels like at Essa Bagel in NYC though.
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Old 29.05.2011, 14:43
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Yesterday I located two different Jewish bakeries in Basel. But alas, neither had bagels.
Do you happen to recall what they did have? (And where they are )


Meanwhile, maybe this will help?

New York Style Bagels

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Re: Quest for a Bagel

Meloncollie, I see eye-to-eye with you on many things, including this one (much be our common Midwestern background)! I've about given up hope of ever finding a good one.

Out of curiosity, have you ever tried this Jewish bookstore/cafe in Zurich, or this cafe in Winterthur? The bookstore's hours have made it impossible for me to get out there, though I hear it would be worth a visit...

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... I've come to the conclusion that the only way to satisfy that craving is to hop on a plane.
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Besides, back home you can get bialys too.


OH man... what I wouldn't do for a bialy bagel. --DROOOOOOOOL--
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Do you happen to recall what they did have? (And where they are )

Both are near the Brausebad Haltestelle. My search was bagel-focused so I didn't take good notes on the details.

Bäckerei Schmutz at Austrasse 53... but I don't recall the details of what was there.

Bäckerei-Konditorei Krebs at Spalenring 100. Very BUSY bakery by the way. So it must be good.
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Old 29.05.2011, 15:15
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Re: Quest for a Bagel

Have a look for Basel Bagels they have a Facebook page and you can buy online
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Re: Quest for a Bagel

Well if anyone bakes or buys bagels, they might be interested in this bagel slicer.
I still have it, not sure why the thread is closed.
I have baked bagels but now that I have a bread machine I have lost the taste for bagels. Honest, I didn't have a single bagel when I was on holiday recently in N. America.
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Old 29.05.2011, 17:48
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Every Friday we have Bagels at work: mybagel.ch
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Re: Quest for a Bagel

There is amazing bagels only cafe in Winterthur called "BAGELS"
they have all kinds fresh made! soups and cakes, muffins and cupcakes...I love this place on sundays and is right in the old town next to the cafes and you can seat there and enjoy the nice park in front and people walking around. They have really good coffee also! Its also a small hotel..so if you want to come to winterthur for the weekend you can stay there and you might even get bagel room service! beside eating bagels all weekend! HIGHLY RECOMMENDED! here is the website link:

http://www.bagels.ch/?page=EN10

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Re: Quest for a Bagel

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Do you happen to recall what they did have? (And where they are )

Meanwhile, maybe this will help?

New York Style Bagels
It's not that simple as the flours here are just not up to scratch and are far too low in gluten to make a decent bagel.

I'd sum up my own experiences in bagel making here but the expat chow blog does a great job of explaining the problems with swiss flours and how to get much better results.

I've tried the bagels.ch bagels and, while better than the stale packaged ones, they just aren't as good as I expected though I admit I have high standards with bagels.
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Every Friday we have Bagels at work: mybagel.ch
Is this for real?? OMG! I live right next door and I've never seen them! (are you sure the address on the website is correct? they seem to be invisible!) And now I'm moving to a new place.. And to think I could have had so many awesome bagels instead of pizza all the time :P
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Is this for real?? OMG! I live right next door and I've never seen them! (are you sure the address on the website is correct? they seem to be invisible!) And now I'm moving to a new place.. And to think I could have had so many awesome bagels instead of pizza all the time :P
Looks like you missed out!! We have them delivered. Never seen the address. They are good too!
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Re: Quest for a Bagel

I saw in Basel the bookshop Bider and Tanner has now started selling some British and American food products. They have a chiller upstairs and definitely sold bagels as well as cookie dough and huge cheesecakes!
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So I finally tried out Books and Bagels, near Waffenplatz in Zurich. As the name suggests, it's a book-store with a cafe attached. Like!
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I have been looking high and low for Bagels. I did find some sort of pre-packaged plain, boring looking thing at Migros once, but other than that, it seems impossible to find fresh baked bagels anywhere. One friend even told me, "Bagels are American; they don't exist in Europe."

But in looking at the history of the bagel, it seems logical that there should be some sort of fresh-baked bagel-esque bread product SOMEWHERE in Switzerland!!!

Yesterday I located two different Jewish bakeries in Basel. But alas, neither had bagels.

So.... Has anyone found any bagels in Switzerland?
I haven't seen 'real' bagels in Europe in 30 years. Thaat said, even bagels in the US have undergone a complete wimpification. The authentic chewy bagel has given way to something more akin to a hamburger roll than a bagel.

Once again evidence that times changed and I didn't. I sound like my dad.
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