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The wine berry mystery

Since a while I am looking for the german or swissgerman name for wine berries. Not even native swiss (my family and friends included) could help me on this one. They exist here but don't seem to have a name...
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Wikipedia suggests Japanische Weinbeere or Rotborstige Himbeere, if it's these you're looking for.
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Old 04.06.2011, 11:55
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Re: The wine berry mystery

Could it be Heidelbeere?
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Old 04.06.2011, 11:57
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Re: The wine berry mystery

Have you any other name for them in English or latin?
I have no idea what they are as wine berry does not ring a bell for me in English? Wine apple but not berry!
Berries are such a local and seasonal thing it amazes me how hard it can be to translate their names.
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Re: The wine berry mystery

Wineberry is a name used for several fruits including the blueberry (Heidelbeere) and the Japanese Raspberry.
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Old 04.06.2011, 12:01
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Re: The wine berry mystery

According to this site it could be Japanische Weinbeere. Used reversed engineering to translate English Deutsch

http://www.rareplants.de/shop/produc...umLanguageID=2
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Re: The wine berry mystery

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Wikipedia suggests Japanische Weinbeere or Rotborstige Himbeere, if it's these you're looking for.
Hmmm I think you're right.
Now I want to know the swissgerman word for it... But a friend said, that they were declarated as poisonous in her child hood (long time ago)... so maybe swiss don't have names for something bad?
And japanische Weinbeeren aren't poisonous...
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Wineberry is a name used for several fruits including the blueberry (Heidelbeere) and the Japanese Raspberry.
Ha! now that is very interesting! so it could be anything! but I think, I'll go with the japanese raspberry/ wine berry.
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Hmmm I think you're right.
Now I want to know the swissgerman word for it... But a friend said, that they were declarated as poisonous in her child hood (long time ago)... so maybe swiss don't have names for something bad?
And japanische Weinbeeren aren't poisonous...
Maybe she didn't mean poisonous - they're banned in many places including much of the US north east because they're a pest.
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Maybe she didn't mean poisonous - they're banned in many places including much of the US north east because they're a pest.
she was told they were poisonous but maybe because they wanted to keep them down...
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Maybe she didn't mean poisonous - they're banned in many places including much of the US north east because they're a pest.
They're peskily delicious!!!! nom nom nom
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Re: The wine berry mystery

My wife told me that the name changes from dilect to dilect. But the High German, Weinbeeren, . Just dryed grapes , saltanas.

Last edited by Aussie kev; 04.06.2011 at 18:51. Reason: forgot a word
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My wife told me that the name changes from dilect to dilect. But the High German, Weinbeeren, . Just dryed grapes , saltanas.
Wineberry is not another name for grapes. It is a different fruit
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Wineberry is not another name for grapes. It is a different fruit
Nah, he's right, for German, at least: Weinbeere.

No wonder the OP can't find what s/he's looking for!
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Nah, he's right, for German, at least: Weinbeere.

No wonder the OP can't find what s/he's looking for!
These stupid translations make things very difficult.
In English, Wineberry is a distinctly different fruit. Even the English are confused as there are three separate fruits with that name.
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My wife told me that the name changes from dilect to dilect. But the High German, Weinbeeren, . Just dryed grapes , saltanas.
I agree with Kev. A Swiss friend commented on the sultanas/raisins my daughter was eating calling them Weinberre too.

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Re: The wine berry mystery

The whole myrtillus familly has regional names, I say Heidelbeere for the one every body recognises out of the three fruits named wineberry in English (the one I also find under Bilberry) But the american ones are not the same as the european montain ones. The bigger waterier ones are Blaubeere in my head.

Rubus phoenicolasius: The japanese one may be what I've heard called wilde Himbeere but google shows Japanische Weinbeere or rotborstige Himbeere. I would go for the latter.
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