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checkoutmails 28.06.2011 11:53

Cream cheese for Frosting?
 


Hello Friends,

Can someone tell me where to buy cream cheese for making icing for cakes? If it is available in Migros or coop, in what name??

Thanks in advance.

wattsli1 28.06.2011 11:59

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I use philadelphia for cream cheese icing (also for cheesecakes) - can get it in the coop in the normal cheese section (probably migros, I don't shop there).

sygirl101 28.06.2011 12:07

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The German word is Frischkäse or Doppelrahm Frischkäse or Dänischer Frischkäse. Exact same thing as cream cheese. Migros even has an M-Budget version in 300 gram packs.

phdoofus 28.06.2011 12:12

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Coop has it. You won't miss it.

mirfield 28.06.2011 12:15

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Marscapone is quite widely available too.


Marscapone is the same thing, isn't it? I've never had it, but always thought that it sounds marvelous.

poptart 28.06.2011 12:23

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Originally Posted by mirfield (Post 1243197)
Marscapone is quite widely available too.


Marscapone is the same thing, isn't it? I've never had it, but always thought that it sounds marvelous.

No, mascarpone is a bit different as it tends to be softer, sweeter, richer and tangier. They are often used in the stead of the other but they aren't the same. Given that the mascarpone around here is so good, I'd use it for frosting with a slight adjustment to the amount of sugar.

The philly cream cheese here is also a bit off...am I the only yankee who finds it so? It's a bit...grainy? Not sure how to define the strange taste/texture in it.

sygirl101 28.06.2011 12:30

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Originally Posted by poptart (Post 1243206)
No, mascarpone is a bit different as it tends to be softer, sweeter, richer and tangier. They are often used in the stead of the other but they aren't the same. Given that the mascarpone around here is so good, I'd use it for frosting with a slight adjustment to the amount of sugar.

The philly cream cheese here is also a bit off...am I the only yankee who finds it so? It's a bit...grainy? Not sure how to define the strange taste/texture in it.

Grainy? Um...no? I've always had normal cream cheese here.

phdoofus 28.06.2011 12:36

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Originally Posted by poptart (Post 1243206)
The philly cream cheese here is also a bit off...am I the only yankee who finds it so? It's a bit...grainy? Not sure how to define the strange taste/texture in it.

Those are the secret Swiss flavor crystals that make you think it tastes better than what you had back home. You weren't supposed to notice those. Quality Control has been alerted.

checkoutmails 28.06.2011 19:34

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Thanks everyone... I will checkout in the shop.

Cheers.

poptart 28.06.2011 19:45

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Originally Posted by phdoofus (Post 1243229)
Those are the secret Swiss flavor crystals that make you think it tastes better than what you had back home. You weren't supposed to notice those. Quality Control has been alerted.

Oh, now, don't go too over the edge - the philly cream cheese is made in Germany and the texture is different. I can't quite put my finger on it but it's not the same. I'm sure all the toxic bits that are used in the US are illegal in the EU....:)

Peg A 28.06.2011 20:32

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Originally Posted by poptart (Post 1243823)
Oh, now, don't go too over the edge - the philly cream cheese is made in Germany and the texture is different. I can't quite put my finger on it but it's not the same. I'm sure all the toxic bits that are used in the US are illegal in the EU....:)

It does seem a tad different to me but I've just chalked it up to difference in packaging. It isn't so different in texture from the tubs of "spreadable" we'd get in the US, which although shaped different (small round instead of small oval) seem to be pretty much the same.

Meanwhile, I do tend to get the store brand "Frischkäse" rather than Philly these days. Tastes as good AND costs less. The recipe I most often use for cheesecake calls for a little more than 3 packages, at something over 3chf per package for the Philly, it stings a bit.

(Message to friends: I do tend to get Philly if I'm cooking for folks, but for just hubby and I, I do the cheap & local. :p)

jacek 28.06.2011 20:33

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One time my wife (only once and I hope she won't read it) made a cheese cake cream out of Philadelphia cheese and it didn't settle well as the whole mass was too watery. Instead of chucking it away, I suggested to freeze the whole mass and serve it later with ice-cream. Needless to say it was very delicious and this is how we discovered new cream for ice-creams. It's nearly as genuine idea of ours as the one of someone who discovered how to make wine out of the fermented grapes :)

phdoofus 28.06.2011 20:54

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Originally Posted by jacek (Post 1243864)
One time my wife (only once and I hope she won't read it) made a cheese cake cream out of Philadelphia cheese and it didn't settle well as the whole mass was too watery. Instead of chucking it away, I suggested to freeze the whole mass and serve it later with ice-cream. Needless to say it was very delicious and this is how we discovered new cream for ice-creams. It's nearly as genuine idea of ours as the one of someone who discovered how to make wine out of the fermented grapes :)

Sorry, but cheesecake ice cream has been around awhile. I know, I've made it myself. :-)

jacek 28.06.2011 21:04

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Originally Posted by phdoofus (Post 1243882)
Sorry, but cheesecake ice cream has been around awhile. I know, I've made it myself. :-)

Oh Lordy, that's plagiarism and infringement of our culinary ideas. It calls for litigations. Where is my frying pan when I need it the most to bang few cheese heads :D

Panther 29.06.2011 09:26

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Originally Posted by Peg A (Post 1243863)
It does seem a tad different to me but I've just chalked it up to difference in packaging. It isn't so different in texture from the tubs of "spreadable" we'd get in the US, which although shaped different (small round instead of small oval) seem to be pretty much the same.

Meanwhile, I do tend to get the store brand "Frischkäse" rather than Philly these days. Tastes as good AND costs less. The recipe I most often use for cheesecake calls for a little more than 3 packages, at something over 3chf per package for the Philly, it stings a bit.

(Message to friends: I do tend to get Philly if I'm cooking for folks, but for just hubby and I, I do the cheap & local. :p)


Did you notice as well, that the actual weight of the Philly cream cheese without the packaging is considerably less than 200gr, my lot weighed in at 183gram per a tub...........what a rip off!

And a quick question, is cream cheese frosting supposed to be a tad salty?

poptart 29.06.2011 09:39

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Originally Posted by Pather (Post 1244266)
Did you notice as well, that the actual weight of the Philly cream cheese without the packaging is considerably less than 200gr, my lot weighed in at 183gram per a tub...........what a rip off!

And a quick question, is cream cheese frosting supposed to be a tad salty?

No, not with the amount of confectioner's/powdered sugar you add in with it. :) It's just that mascarpone is much sweeter naturally and philly is a bit salty.

little_isabella 13.12.2011 14:58

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Originally Posted by poptart (Post 1243206)
The philly cream cheese here is also a bit off...am I the only yankee who finds it so? It's a bit...grainy? Not sure how to define the strange taste/texture in it.

Not at all. I totally agree and in fact, started this thread because of it:

http://www.englishforum.ch/food-drin...se-blocks.html

runningdeer 13.12.2011 15:06

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Originally Posted by little_isabella (Post 1433058)
Not at all. I totally agree and in fact, started this thread because of it:

http://www.englishforum.ch/food-drin...se-blocks.html


While I don't find any problems with the Philly cheese, you may want to try Kiri. It is slightly softer and comes in small squares.

http://www.kiri-kiri.ch/fileadmin/ki...uebersicht.jpg

drmom 13.12.2011 15:17

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I think it is definitely watery and not quite as solid as the stuff in the states. But as I don't eat bagels here, I don't have it quite as often!

liebeZurich 24.01.2016 13:58

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The cream cheese or Frischkäse here is the one that is spreadable. Not the one in blocks (like in US). If you use it as it is, your icing consistency will be very much like a liquid. But, you could do the trick by draining the water inside the creamcheese and store the icing in the fridge for a few hours before using it.


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