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English Cider - your thoughts please

In particular, how do you rate Gaymers? I've been contacted by a firm who's importing it (they also have Diamond White which is not errr very nice ). I would really like a proper scrumpy cider but I doubt they have such a long shelf life.

Apart from Gaymers, which other brands of English cider are worth drinking? I used to drink one cider in the UK which was great, I drank so much of it I can't remember the name, maybe someone here can remind me.

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In particular, how do you rate Gaymers? I've been contacted by a firm who's importing it (they also have Diamond White which is not errr very nice ). I would really like a proper scrumpy cider but I doubt they have such a long shelf life.

Apart from Gaymers, which other brands of English cider are worth drinking? I used to drink one cider in the UK which was great, I drank so much of it I can't remember the name, maybe someone here can remind me.
Personal opinion of someone who comes from Cider country. Is don't do it...

Your business model I guess is high quality independent producers. This doesn't really fit in?

Why sell mass produced garbage rather than quality stuff? Perhaps use the contacts you have to get some high quality independent stuff. No doubt the "cheesy" guys you know must know cider producers.

Perhaps add apple wine/elderflower wine? I doubt the market would be that great for this stuff bit of a risk really unless you find some heavy cider drinkers.

Now if you can find Cornish Honey Mead I would buy crates of that stuff!

Specifically this stuff below. 26% and surprisingly easy to drink as a desert wine.

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Old 29.06.2011, 14:54
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Re: English Cider - your thoughts please

Being a Berkshireman, I swear on this stuff

http://www.tuttsclumpcider.co.uk/

If you can import it, you've got one happy customer.

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In particular, how do you rate Gaymers?
Did you see the "serve over ice" recommendation on the bottle?

nuff said.
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Re: English Cider - your thoughts please

I'm partial to pear cider too, just for information.
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Old 29.06.2011, 15:14
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Personal opinion of someone who comes from Cider country. Is don't do it...

Your business model I guess is high quality independent producers. This doesn't really fit in?
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Did you see the "serve over ice" recommendation on the bottle?

nuff said.
That was my gut reaction when offered it but it's the only one I can find here and I don't want to get involved with importing alcohol just yet.

Perry, Elderflower Champagne and Scrumpy are what I would like long term but I guess we will have to wait.

So the 3 crates of Gaymers they are sending me on "Sale or Return".... I guess I should at least try one.
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Take your pick, big blob at top is obviously of preference, not being biased or anything..

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps/ms?hl=...8&source=embed
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Re: English Cider - your thoughts please

TBH, I'll happily slurp Gaymers (and Magners), especially in this weather, but I agree it's a bit out of line with your other stuff - a bit like you including Cathedral City.

Are there no local Epfelmues chaps ( la Rappi) you can source from?
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Re: English Cider - your thoughts please

Anything from Henry Westons, there perry is amazing, and Aspall's are all good too.

Addlestones too, they now do a draft version............. and it was in my local..... (gets home sick....)

Still it's meant to be a fantastic year for single orchard/apples this year.

Oh and Dunkertons Black Fox is jolly tasty too.

Apparently, being a manly man I never touch the stuff....... well actually coming from Deb'um I normally only drink the cloudy flat stuff with bits of bat in it....
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Re: English Cider - your thoughts please

I am partial to a nice cider - so much so that this is my first proper post (other than when I was attempting to furnish my flat) -Gayners is my favourite amongst the larger producers, but if you want something a bit more independent, suggest you give Once Upon A Tree cider and perry a try -its delicious!
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Old 29.06.2011, 19:16
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The cheese market is huge here. There's always room for something different, especially the top notch artisan produce which you sell.
Personally, I think cider goes great with cheese but there doesn't seem to be a huge fan base for it in my neck of the woods. When I occasionally buy it, I buy Normandy cider which is readily available and excellent quality. A good Perry would be more interesting as it's more difficult to get your hands on. But still, I wonder how much you'd sell. Very niche.
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Old 29.06.2011, 19:57
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Re: English Cider - your thoughts please

An EF event on Diamond White? I'll have front row seats
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Re: English Cider - your thoughts please

Not being English, perhaps I am not qualified to reply, but what about the Swiss Cider? Is it very different, or is it just the brand people are buying? From the feedback on this thread it seems Gaynors is not the best choice.
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I would really like a proper scrumpy cider but I doubt they have such a long shelf life.
Don't think I will touch Scrumpy Jacks' ever again. Few bad nights at the students' union, with ambulances, customs and excise and a number of other elements... But, no, there was no fight.

My thought re. English cider is that it can be good stuff, but should be treated with respect.
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Old 29.06.2011, 20:31
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Re: English Cider - your thoughts please

To be fair Magners, Gaymers, Woodpecker and so on haven't been anywhere near an apple and can't be called cider.

I doubt you will be able to import any of the really good ciders as I suspect they don't travel very well but as already mentioned Westons, Stonehouse etc. would be very welcome and I would certainly buy everything you can import at the expense of my liver.

If it is cloudy and smells of glue you are on to a winner.
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Old 29.06.2011, 20:39
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Re: English Cider - your thoughts please

I had a glass or two of Thatcher's Scrumpy over the weekend. Nice drop.

Will you be renaming yourself ScrumpyGrapefruit?

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To be fair Magners, Gaymers, Woodpecker and so on haven't been anywhere near an apple
Damn. There goes my five-a-day out the window.
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Old 29.06.2011, 21:18
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Re: English Cider - your thoughts please

Any will do, for a poor man's black velvet - one of the most refreshing summer drinks .......... and the pouring is always good for a laugh.
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Re: English Cider - your thoughts please

A nice scrumpy is better than one of the mass produced ciders, but this aside, Gaymers is one of the best of the more readily available ones. I would buy lots from you BUT...

Coop sell Bulmers as part of their normal sortiment. Okay, it's Irish not English, but the taste is virtually identical, so I don't think you're adding something that isn't already available, especially since the Coop price is CHF4.70 and I guess you would charge more than that.

Do you still carry that Ginger cordial? That's good, and that's something you can't otherwise get here.
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Re: English Cider - your thoughts please

Westons Cider and their Stowford Press.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weston's_Cider
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