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If people try to accomodate me and speak german or english because I don't speak french, I'm appreciative and don't fuss about minor mistakes. The attitude of the OP comes across as a bit arrogant imo.

I'm also glad when native speakers correct my english or french, but how would it help me if they post the correct phrase on some random internet forum?
I am arrogant! It's not my attitude, although it is appreciated that you seem to accept it in a way, the rest who groan me are proving only one thing. You really need to get over yourselves.
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Old 23.07.2011, 18:35
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Re: Dear Swiss people, it's called a loaf...

OK - why don't we start discussing 'countables' and 'uncountables' while we are heading towards the subject??
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One loaf
two loaves

One piece of bread
Two pieces of bread

Some bread..........
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Re: Dear Swiss people, it's called a loaf...

Yeah and wile we're at it, gloves aren't called "hand shoes" either.
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Re: Dear Swiss people, it's called a loaf...

So we say a slice of bread but not a piece of bread?
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So we say a slice of bread but not a piece of bread?
Maybe that depends on whether you are slicing the bread or tearing off pieces of it.
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Old 23.07.2011, 23:53
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Re: Dear Swiss people, it's called a loaf...

A slice of bread can be a piece of bread; and a piece of bread can be a slice of bread
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I am arrogant!
No kidding!!
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A slice of bread can be a piece of bread; and a piece of bread can be a slice of bread
Not to me! A slice of bread is a neatly cut (or at any rate should be) cross section of a loaf, being of the same thickness across the slice (again at any rate should be), but not so thick that - for example - it could not fit in a toaster slot. A piece of bread is any other cut or torn portion of bread, not being a whole loaf or roll, and, also, not being a slice!

You make me laugh because I correct my son on exactly this point endlessly, but am now appreciating how it probably isn't quite so obvious.
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...but not so thick that - for example - it could not fit in a toaster slot.
ahh, what you are referring to here is a doorstep!!

However, I would have to agree with your definition of what constitutes a slice of bread and a piece of bread
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...of bread!

We English speakers owe it to our Swiss natives to explain this. I, personally, for example; have been asked (in English) if I could "get a bread", or "buy me some breads" when going to the supermarket or shop by a native.

The correct phrase would be "would you get me a LOAF of bread".. OK?

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How's your Swiss German / Swiss French coming along? Completely flawless?
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How's your Swiss German / Swiss French coming along? Completely flawless?
and that's why I STFU when speaking with a swiss person in Switzerland in english...
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How's your Swiss German / Swiss French coming along? Completely flawless?
Fine thanks.

It's amazing here how so many are Swiss-sensitive. I probably get corrected about 5-6 times a day speaking Swiss German & do I give a f***? No I don't.

This thread was just a little thing, OK? And please all those who gave me green blobbies, can I say a collective thanks, I really never expected any.
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A slice of bread is a neatly cut (or at any rate should be) cross section of a loaf, being of the same thickness across the slice (again at any rate should be), but not so thick that - for example - it could not fit in a toaster slot. A piece of bread is any other cut or torn portion of bread, not being a whole loaf or roll, and, also, not being a slice!
Now what am I expected to do when my American OH, a writer and journalist by the way, asks me to "cut a piece of bread" for her? Do I have to make slanted cuts or at least partly break it? I don't think that's what she wants. Actually she asks me to do it because she knows she will butcher the loaf.
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Yeah and wile we're at it, gloves aren't called "hand shoes" either.
This thread is getting long enough that I'm glad I have a large picture umbrella to read it on.

Have you ever wondered why men even have breast warts?

And no, mother cake isn't something you give your mother on Mother's Day.
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Now what am I expected to do when my American OH, a writer and journalist by the way, asks me to "cut a piece of bread" for her? Do I have to make slanted cuts or at least partly break it? I don't think that's what she wants. Actually she asks me to do it because she knows she will butcher the loaf.
Oh no, I am sure she is correct. My explanation was for British English - and - as I know from my job share with an American lady teaching English, very many words and phrases are slightly (often radically) differently applied between the nationalities/language cultures. As I always say to the people I work with, just try to stick to one set of rules .... both are right.

For the record, if asking incorrectly for the wrong piece/loaf of bread in German was the height of my language misdemeanours ... well happy days they would be.
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So we say a slice of bread but not a piece of bread?
Yes Nil unless it's a piece of a slice.
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Re: Dear Swiss people, it's called a loaf...

But you must understand the entire swiss german dialect take out gramer and simplifies it that is why we dont bother with the whole loaf part its just a waste of time
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But you must understand the entire swiss german dialect take out gramer and simplifies it that is why we dont bother with the whole loaf part its just a waste of time
So many posts just about a bit of bread ??
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Now what am I expected to do when my American OH, a writer and journalist by the way, asks me to "cut a piece of bread" for her? Do I have to make slanted cuts or at least partly break it? I don't think that's what she wants. Actually she asks me to do it because she knows she will butcher the loaf.
Does the act of cutting the bread imply that you are making a slice?
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So many posts just about a bit of bread ??
arrgghh - but is a bit a piece or a slice (or both)??!!
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