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Old 06.08.2011, 17:09
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I can only recommend Yooji when there is no other choice or when you're in that particular area and do not want to walk or take the tram for a better option. Mind you: sushi is quite expensive, so it makes sense to buy quality


- are we right in our judgment ? I guess, the restaurant is simply expensive fast food - not more, not less.
- Or is it just that we dislike their particular ways ? I particular dislike their unfriendly attitude, the high prices, the badly rolled sushi.
- Is Yooji actually Japanese cuisine really ? Not really, the roles are always the same. They don't bother to re-invent them. I always see the same variety.
- Or just a company copying Japanese ways ? A copy, definitely

- And what do Japanese people think about them ? The ones I know never go there, but order or buy from
Sala of Tokyo (they also have a take out menu)
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Thanks for the explanation.

I once was in a Japanese restaurant near Albisgüetli which was quite good. The personnel in the Yooji in question were friendly and charming, but the stuff was far too expensive

And, yes, even if not intending to go there, I will try to keep "Samurai" in my mind !
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Old 06.08.2011, 17:15
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Samurai is a really good choice

But Japanese cuisine is always expensive. But if you only go once or twice, than that's a negligible fact.

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Thanks for the explanation.

I once was in a Japanese restaurant near Albisgüetli which was quite good. The personnel in the Yooji in question were friendly and charming, but the stuff was far too expensive

And, yes, even if not intending to go there, I will try to keep "Samurai" in my mind !
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Old 06.08.2011, 17:23
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We don't all, always, have the time to sit in a restaurant.
I wish Pret a Manger would open here. I haven't found anything as good in Lausanne.
I'm glad Pret don't open here.....their products are great and I likeD their ethics although the McDs and VC stake buying diluted it a bit but the main reason is that their products are MASSIVELY unhealthy....Pret All Day Breakfast is about 650 kcals vs a Big Mac at less than 500....

I know that fast food isn't about health.....which is kind of my point......if you're gonna eat fast food, you may as well have a burger than a Pret sarney
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Old 06.08.2011, 18:36
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I wish Pret a Manger would open here. I haven't found anything as good in Lausanne.
I have found Migros and Coop sandwiches and salads and quick food for lunch to be excellent. I had a green salad and yakitori skewers yesterday that were great. Quick and cheap snack to take down to the park and eat in the sunshine.
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Old 07.08.2011, 09:46
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You have changed my posting completely! What a Pl@nker!
How was it changed? You said "I do not enjoy them" and he wrote "Don't go there then"....?
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Re: Fast Food and Food Chains in CH

It doesn't change it at all - the OP asked what the choice was. Not whether you liked them or not.

If you don't like fast food , then that is absolutely fine by me.
If you don't want you posted quoted , then don't write it - that is the problem with the public domain
A very juvenile "Double plonker back at cha" and a groan back.
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Re: Fast Food and Food Chains in CH

Movenpick in itself is a chain, and it also operated the Cindy's Diner chain, which you will find along a lot of the autoroutes here and also in Germany I believe. Cindy's is like an american style diner, or as close as it gets in CH. Movenpick as a chain is also very decent.

For many years there was a Spaghetti Factory in Geneva and Bern I believe, think they are still around. Personally I think their pasta is crap, but to everyone their own.
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Old 08.08.2011, 10:52
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Re: Fast Food and Food Chains in CH

how do people rate New Point? Looks ok from the outside, plenty of choice....
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Old 08.08.2011, 11:00
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how do people rate New Point? Looks ok from the outside, plenty of choice....
New, global and Multiopoints are a failed attempt on creating franchises and in my opinion, are all low quality/bad taste.
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Old 08.08.2011, 11:01
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how do people rate New Point? Looks ok from the outside, plenty of choice....
Victim of their success me thinks.. their kebabs were among the best in town and quite consistent in their quality, now they are just tiny and overpriced. Still better than most for lamb/chicken/fish Pepito (grilled sandwich)
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Old 08.08.2011, 11:05
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This indeed is a weird statement. Döner Kebab / Shawarma Kebab is far tastier than any Gyros you may get anywhere. If "not tasty at all" it is NOT a Shawarma (Döner) at all.

Reasons ?
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It may have a lousy sauce served with it
It is made not of lamb and beef but of chicken or whatever
It is produced in a lousy way
-- all three things are widespread among those chains

I think this is a rather silly thing to say - unless of course you've had EXACTLY the same döner kebab I have had (same place, same night) and EXACTLY the same gyros.

Somehow, I doubt either.

Now, it may be true that wherever I did get them, what was served was less than top notch, I wouldn't know. I have had them a couple of times from one specific place that is hubby's favorite, he says they're the best he's had...

Alas, the "döner kebab" I have sampled here have all left me feeling they're alright but just not up to scratch.

So, if I'm going to have some fast food / junk food, I will spend the money on something at BK, preferably something with bacon and bbq sauce.
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Old 08.08.2011, 11:08
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Re: Fast Food and Food Chains in CH

I have a problem reading "variety" and "fast food" in the same sentence.
My experience of American Fast Food is that it is a concept repeated in every single outlet with military precision, therefore there will be no change of menu nor interpretation in any of their outlets.
Uniform fast food must be the most disappointing style of catering that exists .
I can understand someone missing the style if suddenly it is no longer available ie a move to Switzerland, but surely when one compares a daily menu in every restaurant,cafe,sausage bar etc that is varied by the proprietor, one can be sometimes disappointed and sometimes very pleasantly surprised but one is never ever bored.
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Old 08.08.2011, 11:21
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And good lord are they good!!!! *Drool!!!!!!!! (I am gutted there is not a Drool smiley!)
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I have a problem reading "variety" and "fast food" in the same sentence.
My experience of American Fast Food is that it is a concept repeated in every single outlet with military precision, therefore there will be no change of menu nor interpretation in any of their outlets.
Uniform fast food must be the most disappointing style of catering that exists .
I can understand someone missing the style if suddenly it is no longer available ie a move to Switzerland, but surely when one compares a daily menu in every restaurant,cafe,sausage bar etc that is varied by the proprietor, one can be sometimes disappointed and sometimes very pleasantly surprised but one is never ever bored.

This is definitely has some truth.

The stand alone non-franchised restaurants in North America do not fare well at all, unless they have some wild connection or marketing or are just absolutely amazing (even these only last a few years).

It seems that the North American people like familiarity. Whether you're at home or a few 1000 km across the continent, when you walk into a taco bell, you know exactly what's available and what to get.

There's nothing I hate more, than going to a private restaurant choosing some meal based on a one line description, having to eat something totally unenjoyable, then having to pay some useless cook and entrepreneur for the experience.

I sorely miss the food in North America!
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Re: Fast Food and Food Chains in CH

Amen, I just miss the variety of restaurants in the US. OK so maybe some of it wasn't good for me, but where I lived in the US there were not only fast food, but really good food as well. I miss good Mexican, Chinese, Thai, BBQ joints, Mr. Hero, KFC, Oodles of Noodles, all kinds of things that just don't exist here. Here you get Italian, or "Swiss".

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Of course, if all you're thinking about is McD's and BK then you can "easily" say - "Eh, after you're here a while, you won't even miss it"

But

Being able to go and get some chicken with black beans & rice and some yucca fries.. or just a little further up the street you can get some Wendy's (nom nom, Big Bacon Classic is my favorite all time!), or across the way is KFC -or- Popeyes (and fried chicken places), a little further along is Quiznos or Subway, some Gyros shops (donner kebab is actually not tasty at all compared to the Gyros I used to get in the Chicago 'burbs)... So, while something quick can be had here, a CHOICE of something quick, is definitely missing.


On the other hand, here it is a bit easier to find cafeterias with some pretty good fresh food attached to many of the larger grocery stores. Manor, Migros and Coop all for sure... quick enough if you're in a hurry, often with some little play areas for kids AND the food is as fresh as anything you'd buy that day to cook yourself.


(Gosh, I have a killer taste for some Pollo Tropical now!)

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It's like hotel chains- an Ibis type is the same all over the world- so you know exactly what to expect. But do you really want every town becoming clones, as is happening in the UK. Every little town having a Costa, a Starbucks, a Pizzahut, a McDo, a Café Rouge, a Zizzi and Carluccios (yes they are good, but ...) + the same shops, same boutiques, same everything. Yes you get consistency that way ... but at what price?

I'd rather have the surprise of meagre quality once in a while- for the pleasure to discover the other delightful gems- be it in small hotels or restaurants- anywhere in the world. Consistency = clones too often, how tragically boring and sad.

Langenthal may not be the best place to sample some of the wonderful world cuisine available in CH though, sorry.
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Re: Fast Food and Food Chains in CH

two further international chains:

http://www.wagamama.ch/
http://www.lepainquotidien.ch/
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This is seeming to me to be a thread of "agree to disagree"

I don't expect a variety from McD's to McD's... what I do wish to see is more variety of food in general - and more variety that I can stop in and eat or take home without having to sit down to order, then wait 30min for it to come as well as an additional 30+min after eating for the server to bring my bill.

Here there are two main choices. Something that most will agree is somewhat "unhealthy" (McD's, BK and the over-abundant döner kebab places) OR someplace you have to sit down. Thankfully, those who know their neighborhoods will see that many of the Asian markets have prepared take-away available around mealtimes so this does help add to the variety but still, it's nothing like we're used to in the US, not even comparing like-for-like size towns.
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Wagamama is horrible, bland, internationalised "Asian" cuisine charging insane prices for a bowl of noodles. I'm just not used to (American) fast food anymore, everytime I eat at McDo or BK it tastes pretty greasy and bad to me. I tend to forget this though the next time I'm drunk and hungry. I like the Indian Thai take-aways around Langstrasse more.
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One of many things that as an American you'll need to relearn...Food is an experience and the Suisse value eating it, so fast food typically equates to poor food - of which you will find precious little...and believe me, it'll be a good thing for you to appreciate the wonder of cuisine en Suisse - it'll change your life
Suisse food is bland and not all that great except for the cheeses. At every restaurant, they have basically the same menu.

Many Ex-pats like spicy food like they get back home. The Chinese
food here is generally crappy and relatively expensive.
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