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swiss!
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you're wrong.
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you're wrong.
Perhaps we could settle this through some quiet rioting and looting?
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Re: Fast Food and Food Chains in CH

People, if youve never had a Little Chef early bird full English, Victoria special, then how can you debate cullinary excellence.
You people simply have no idea, the way the egg slips across the plate into the beans as you carry it to your booth; the after taste of the grease on the chips that stays with you all day. The ketchup sachets that refuse to yield. Heaven on a plate.

Im feeling hungry all of a sudden...............
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Re: Fast Food and Food Chains in CH

I really miss these guys and these guys from California, but apart from that, I have no major complaints about food in Switzerland: what I can find I get, what I can't find (or I can't afford to buy already made) I make from scratch, and for everything else possibly remaining...I travel often enough for business and/or pleasure to satisfy food cravings.

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I don't expect a variety from McD's to McD's... what I do wish to see is more variety of food in general - and more variety that I can stop in and eat or take home without having to sit down to order, then wait 30min for it to come as well as an additional 30+min after eating for the server to bring my bill.
Funny you mention that: when I moved to the US for the first time (to Tennessee) I could not understand for the life of me why people did not do the above - e.g. take their time to eat, etc. - or worse, why in the world someone would get some food and eat it in the car. Many years later, in California, I learned to appreciate that sometimes a quick meal is a necessity, the alternative being nothing to eat at all, and the first time I ate my lunch in the car I got greeted with a "welcome to America!" and reminded by my friends about my prior comments in this matter. To each their own. Now I like to sit down if possible, but agree with you that sometimes quick is better, and doesn't necessarily have to mean unhealthy all the time.

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In all due fairness, though... I don't think American food (whatever THAT is) is very highly regarded around the world, either.
That's because your average Joe in the world is totally clueless and stuck on the "greasy fast food" idea! The US are an extremely diverse country in many aspects, including food. The huge variety of healthy, cheap produce which wonderfully turns into fusion food in California, the cajun/creole cuisine in Louisiana, the richness of southern food, the straightforward cuisine in places like Texas or Chicago, no BS food which winks at Mexico and Southern Italy (respectively). I could go on and on. All of this greatly surprised me at first, but I am happy I had the chance to experience this variety.

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As much as I love all of those, capuns is a family favorite (and I make them well).
Plus one for Capuns. My favorite Swiss food I tasted so far, together with Swiss-style calf liver.

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I think a burrito to-go chain (like Freebird's in TX or even Chipotle) would kill it here.

It would be nice to be able to get some decent Mexican somewhere, no doubt. Probably not going to happen.
True, and I love Chipotle. But make no mistake: nothing that typically passes for "Mexican food" I have tasted in Europe or the US is even close to food in Mexico! Try the pumpkin flower quesadillas garnished with cactus of Mexico City, the cochinita pibil from Yucatan, or mole from Puebla. Then burritos will sound like a bad joke.

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Im feeling hungry all of a sudden...............
Plus one.

Chill, guys: no "food from home" is ever going to taste as good as "at home", but who knows, maybe one is in for a pleasant surprise? One of the sauces I like the most is alfredo sauce: imagine the shock of people when I asked what it was and told them that I loved it and in Italy it was totally unheard of
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Old 09.08.2011, 14:24
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Carrie, in a country as diverse as Switzerland, you can't really generalise about their food. Each language region has its own influences, each canton has its influences and each city or town has its specialities.

Perhaps you should travel around a little and talk to the locals about what they really suggest you try. Sometimes it won't be to your taste and sometimes it will blow you away.

I think the biggest mistake that you could make would be to think that Swiss food is just about fondue, raclette, cheese, wurst and rosti. There is so much wonderful rustic food, sophisticated delicacies and amazing treats to be had around the country it makes me drool just to think about it.
Well, I think I have done my share of traveling here, but perhaps I would like the food better if I was willing to go to really expensive restaurants and pay ridiculous prices...

But it seems to me that much of the food here is "borrowed" from the French, Germans or Italians, so I guess that's why I've found it a bit difficult to understand what "Swiss cuisine" really is. Also, I guess I've met more people here who don't like Swiss food than who do. You're lucky, though, that you DO like the food! I myself am not very fond of meat, so hence...
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Well, I think I have done my share of traveling here, but perhaps I would like the food better if I was willing to go to really expensive restaurants and pay ridiculous prices...
I'm a bit of a cooking enthusiast so tend to make the Swiss dishes myself from scratch which turns out a lot cheaper.

Having said that, there are many restaurants (well, that I know of in Zurich) you can go to that don't charge the earth for Swiss type food.

The restaurants at the top of mountains in the ski season are usually good places to get some lovely filling and warming dishes of Gerstensuppe or Älplenmakkeroni and risottos, plus a good variety of "Eintöpfe".

Plus they are usually very inexpensive if you stay away from the touristy ski resorts.

You'll find a lot of people who don't like the food - it's like the traditional British attitude of "not eating any of that foreign muck!" but if you dig deeper and make an effort to find the good stuff it's usually a revelation.
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True, and I love Chipotle. But make no mistake: nothing that typically passes for "Mexican food" I have tasted in Europe or the US is even close to food in Mexico! Try the pumpkin flower quesadillas garnished with cactus of Mexico City, the cochinita pibil from Yucatan, or mole from Puebla. Then burritos will sound like a bad joke.
I absolutely love cochinita pibil and I'm quite familiar with the wonders of interior Mexican food. I bring up fast-food burrito chains because the presentation is less "foreign" and might be an easier sell for Swiss palates.

My favorite taco truck in Texas served sweetbread tacos, buche tacos, tripitas tacos, and all sorts of wonderful, off-beat and authentic stuff. That might be a tougher sell here!
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Re: Fast Food and Food Chains in CH

I'm going to go ahead and throw in my opinions....

I have to agree a bazillion % with whoever said we need some decent Mexican! UGH! I sooo miss Maui Taco in NYC! Or could you imagine a Chipoltle or Moe's!?? I'm a vegetarian/vegan flirt, so some more choices in that department would be MUCH appreciated!! I'm not a huge advocate of fast food in general, but I see no harm in treating yourself once in a while. (And with the prices here it's a long time between treats!) I also miss Rita's Water Ice, anyone know what that is?? AND, being from the diner capital of the world, I would give up a kidney for someone to open an authentic, 24 hour, honest to God diner!!
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Re: Fast Food and Food Chains in CH

I went to the "Desperado" Mexican restaurant for the first time last weekend (in Dietlikon, right next to Ikea) and while I think it's far from being authentic, I did think that it was much better than the other Mexican places I've tried here. They even have mole!

But I only had their enchiladas... going to try to their tacos next time.

http://www.desperado.ch/
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Re: Fast Food and Food Chains in CH

The fact is, I make the best Mexican this side of the pond!

(and you don't get any! )

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Re: Fast Food and Food Chains in CH

Hmm, a field trip might be in order! That website reminds me of Don Pablos, where I used to work!
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The fact is, I make the best Mexican this side of the pond!

(and you don't get any! )

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Mine's okay too.

However, it's no wonder that the Swiss aren't too keen on this stuff though - the other day my sister-in-law tried to serve us guacamole made from a powdered mix to which you add water
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Re: Fast Food and Food Chains in CH

incredible how nobody mentioned vapiano yet



they make the food infront of you in like 4 minutes (so like 10mins waiting in line). you can arrive, order, eat at moderate pace and be gone in 30mins
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Yes, there is also at least one seriously amazing french restaurant.

My point was more about the fact that there are some amazing local things to eat as well if you just make the effort to explore the small places and ask around.

Have you tried the fish restaurant in Walchwil, which I believe was an one point world famous?
I haven't tried this fish restaurant or French restaurant.
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I haven't tried this fish restaurant or French restaurant.
Sternen Walchwil (http://www.sternen-walchwil.ch/index.html) for fish and
Altus Bar (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Althus...63446870334380) for french style food.

I enjoyed both.
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Re: Fast Food and Food Chains in CH

I presume that no TGI Friday's exist in Switzerland, right? I've seen that a restaurant opened at Geneva in ... 1995 but I guess that business got bad, since I can't find it. :P

I hoped that I would find at least a better (food you get)/(CHF or € you pay) proportion there. That is, since everything is expensive here, at least be sure that I'll get a lot of food.
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I presume that no TGI Friday's exist in Switzerland, right? I've seen that a restaurant opened at Geneva in ... 1995 but I guess that business got bad, since I can't find it. :P

I hoped that I would find at least a better (food you get)/(CHF or € you pay) proportion there. That is, since everything is expensive here, at least be sure that I'll get a lot of food.
I have never found a TGIFriday's in Switzerland. They have pretty good
food at a decent price.

Outback Steakhouse would do pretty well here, IMHO.
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Outback Steakhouse would do pretty well here, IMHO.
If you like steak, do make your way to Altus Bar and have the fillet with some red wine and finish off with some of the local cherry brandy....just don't take your car!
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TGIF in Geneva burned down about 10 years ago!!
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