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Concord grapes spotted in Migros!

I was browsing the produce section of Migros this morning when my attention was arrested by a familiar, hauntingly autumnal smell. Doubled back to check and there they were... "Trauben Americana" in 500g plastic boxes at CHF 3.

"Americana"?

I bent and sniffed - couldn't be - but it was them all right. If these are not Concords they're close enough to fool me... and I say that as somebody who went grape picking and made grape jelly every single October growing up.

No idea if they have these every year, or in every Migros - but I bought three boxes and I am reveling in them. Half tempted to make some of that grape jelly now - I still can't get my mind round the idea that my beloved Englishman has never had a PB&J - but that would mean I'd have to stop eating them out of hand....

(If any non-Americans are tempted, be aware they're quite strong and spicy - you'll see when you smell them - only very distant kin of your sweet seedless table grapes. I reckon the closest thing known over here would be Italian uva fragola.)
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Old 27.08.2011, 17:53
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Re: Concord grapes spotted in Migros!

They've been on sale here for the last 50 years! Known as Chatzenseicherli (cat's pee)...
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Old 27.08.2011, 18:07
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Re: Concord grapes spotted in Migros!

They grow all over the place here, but they aren't necessarily Concords, they could be Catawba, etc. All the same family, and all work for jam, I usually pick a few shopping bags from friends' to make jam.

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Old 27.08.2011, 22:36
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They grow all over the place here, but they aren't necessarily Concords, they could be Catawba, etc. All the same family, and all work for jam, I usually pick a few shopping bags from friends' to make jam.

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Come on, give me some credit... I do know my Concords from my Catawbas, and these weren't Catawbas.

Glad to hear you're well supplied though.
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Re: Concord grapes spotted in Migros!

By another funny coincidence, I have just eaten Corncord grape jelly on sour dough toast for brunch! Very tasty too (a slightly musty flavour?) - and to think I had never even heard of them before your first post.
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Old 27.08.2011, 22:41
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Re: Concord grapes spotted in Migros!

Now you've got me "almost" tempted to attempt jam making rather than relying upon my mother-in-law to provide me with home made jams and jellies.

Mmmmm nothing quite like pb & GRAPE jam, or even more "decadent" the same pb&grape along side some chicken noodle soup when under the weather. (Yes, I know plenty are probably shaking their heads but the combination of comfort foods is simply divine. )
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Re: Concord grapes spotted in Migros!

Jam, is it? I've actually never made grape jam - only jelly.

(or are we talking about the same thing? To me jam has mashed fruit in it, jelly is where you strain the pulp through a cheesecloth bag and use only the juice. Those might be regional definitions though.)
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Re: Concord grapes spotted in Migros!

I miss Concord Grape Jam..!!




Can anyone answer me why grape jam isn't sold in Switzerland (or maybe even all of Europe?)..??

I mean heck, you can buy peanut butter here so why not the "other" ingredient..?
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I miss Concord Grape Jam..!!




Can anyone answer me why grape jam isn't sold in Switzerland (or maybe even all of Europe?)..??

I mean heck, you can buy peanut butter here so why not the "other" ingredient..?
I think for the same reason there ain't no mellon jam, either. It's just one of the fruits that gets eaten fresh, me thinks.

(Sorry, but PB&J is simply a sin ...PB, marmite and cheddar, however, is another story)
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Can anyone answer me why grape jam isn't sold in Switzerland?
If it tastes like those weird berries I've been forced to eat in everything from cake to rabbit stew over the last two days, then I'm not surprised it isn't sold.

Jam makers do have reputations to maintain, you know...
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I mean heck, you can buy peanut butter here so why not the "other" ingredient..?
Or even both?



we never had the stuff growing up (it was about three times the price of regular peanut butter, and our pantry was already full of grape jelly!) but I always thought it looked cool, so futuristic. Someday when we have our Road Trip Across America I'm going to buy a jar of it - just because.
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I think for the same reason there ain't no mellon jam, either. It's just one of the fruits that gets eaten fresh, me thinks.

(Sorry, but PB&J is simply a sin ...PB, marmite and cheddar, however, is another story)
he he - I love marmite and PB, and also jam and cheddar (although I don't normally like jam on it's own)
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he he - I love marmite and PB, and also jam and cheddar (although I don't normally like jam on it's own)
Me too, funny. Although when I watched my folks eating this as a kid, telling myself I'd rather die than this, I never expect my taste buds to turn on me, hahaha.

Making jams is fab, and it is a fav past time here as much as it is back home, which is really cool. It's nice to share recipes with friends. I am getting excited over the new, chic, fusion jams, like adding spices, chillies, ginger, or alcohol into jams , or mixing fruits.

Gotta have a look for these concord thingies..I do prefer liquid grapes, though. Traminer, if you ask me.
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Gotta have a look for these concord thingies..I do prefer liquid grapes, though. Traminer, if you ask me.
Me too! Traminer ... is that Gewurztraminer, without the Gewurzt? I thought that in itself was a grape variety, or am I totally off the mark here?

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Jam, is it? I've actually never made grape jam - only jelly.

(or are we talking about the same thing? To me jam has mashed fruit in it, jelly is where you strain the pulp through a cheesecloth bag and use only the juice. Those might be regional definitions though.)

Yep, I do mean jam and it means the same to me - fruit pieces in. Preserves would also not go amiss. Reading about concord grapes, jelly seems easier as I'd guess you don't have to worry about separating the seeds out from the fruit.

Hmm... to tempt fruit flies while waiting for trash day or not... hmmm...
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Or even both?



we never had the stuff growing up (it was about three times the price of regular peanut butter, and our pantry was already full of grape jelly!) but I always thought it looked cool, so futuristic. Someday when we have our Road Trip Across America I'm going to buy a jar of it - just because.
You can buy it quite easily in London although it's not cheap. I think I paid £4 for it last time; now I just stick to peanut butter with strawberry jam or honey.
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Yep, I do mean jam and it means the same to me - fruit pieces in. Preserves would also not go amiss. Reading about concord grapes, jelly seems easier as I'd guess you don't have to worry about separating the seeds out from the fruit.

Hmm... to tempt fruit flies while waiting for trash day or not... hmmm...
Go for it! You can always put your stems'n'seeds in a little plastic bag and tie it up before throwing it in the trash.

For jam without seeds, I reckon you could put the pulp through a food mill if you have one, that or mash it through a sieve while it's still hot. If you do the latter, I'd skin the grapes first (Concords are easy, just pinch the end opposite the stem and they slip right off), cook the grapes and mash them through the sieve to deseed, then add the skins back in for flavor and go on with your jam.
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Me too! Traminer ... is that Gewurztraminer, without the Gewurzt? I thought that in itself was a grape variety, or am I totally off the mark here?
Traminer should be green skinned, special variety of grapes, it was mixed with Savagnin Rose, got pink skin (I love our local Savagnin Traminer, pink skinned white grapes variety, from les Hutins, GE, lovely female wine maker), and Gewurztraminer might be a synonym for Savagnin Rose, or it can relate to a lot more strong (fruit/lechee/mouskat) flavored Traminer. The Gewurz probably means it is more aromatic, since you can have milder Traminers. Hmmmmm....I am not a wine specialist, but Traminer is nice. I had a very dry Traminer back home and it was also tasty, though it was not called Gewurz, it was dry and elegant. Not so fruity.

Oops, we are derailing jam thread, ay yay..
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Re: Concord grapes spotted in Migros!

Hmm, may have to try one of these grapes you've found ...

On a side note, to me this is jelly:



As for 'your' jam & jelly, to me they are both jam - just one is chunky, the other not.
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Re: Concord grapes spotted in Migros!

Veering ever so slightly off topic... but may I ask those of you who are experienced hands at making grape jelly (US jelly ):

Do you add pectin to your jelly? And if so, how much?

So far I've stuck to jams - no pectin, but I use higher pectin fruits - and have been happy with the results. But my jams are more the consistency of a spoon fruit.

My first-ever batch of grape jelly ended up as syrup. I added pectin to the second batch, 1 envelope per kg fruit as directed, and ended up with something very stiff, about the consistency of fruit leather - tasty, but not a jelly.


What to you jelly professionals do?


And returning to the topic at hand: No Concord grapes at the Seedamm Migros but a vague promise that they might be getting some in. I'll be haunting the store daily, waiting, just in case... gosh I'd love a bunch of Concords, a little taste of home...
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