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And your comments make you sound like the sort of religious zealot that needs to announce to the world your religion and how you can't eat everyday things the same way others do...In other words, self serving egotism

Fortunately, we live in Suisse, where that sort of egotism is not indulged like it is elsewhere

Kosher chocolate, one of the more ridiculous things in the world - followed not too far behind by those who would defend it
@FC Barca, why can't someone announce their religion to the world without being a zealot and what makes specific eating requirements an announcement of any kind? And why should people keep their beliefs to themselves? Do you feel beliefs are things to be ashamed of? And why is kosher chocolate any more or less ridiculous that eg Halal meat?
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Re: Kosher chocolate

I have a craving for gefilte fish flavoured kosher chocolate. Anyone know where I can get it in Switzerland.

(And if there IS a market for that, I will well and truly eat my (kosher) hat!)
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And your comments make you sound like the sort of religious zealot that needs to announce to the world your religion and how you can't eat everyday things the same way others do...In other words, self serving egotism

Fortunately, we live in Suisse, where that sort of egotism is not indulged like it is elsewhere

Kosher chocolate, one of the more ridiculous things in the world - followed not too far behind by those who would defend it


Why is it ridiculous? it is no different than an English person wanting to find somewhere that sells baked beans or good bacon, or a South African wanting to find Biltong. Just because the food items is part of their religious observance does not mean they are pushing their religion down your throat, they are asking a simple question, end of.

Obviously you have a bit of a chip on your shoulder.
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so interesting. I had no clue that also existed.
Just thought Kosher was another word for Halal.
The concept does not exist in Islam though for such derivates.
As long as it has no poison, pork, then its all halal.
Meat on the other hand needs to be halal for consumtion.
Which is not just a blessing but to slaughter the animal according to Islamic traditions, meaning no blood being left in.
Kosher and Halal have several differences although when it comes to meat, Kosher also means a lot more than a Rabbi being present to bless; there is a way to slaughter the animal and also, no blood is to be left in the meat.
Kosher also means that meat and dairy are not to be served from the same place of preparation. In addition, fish is allowed, but any seafood does that does not have fins and scales, is not allowed.

The list is quite long...

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Thanks to everyone for their useful replies, some amusement, support, and, the inevitable judgmental nonsense that is part and parcel of an online forum.
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Re: Kosher chocolate

But did you find your chocolate?
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But did you find your chocolate?
And, more importantly, are you sharing?
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Actually, the chocolate was for my cousin visiting from the US. Her bf has a number of relatives who keep Kosher and she wanted to get them a gift for the new year. I printed out the icz list for her and she went off to Zurich. Ended up buying some candied jellies, not chocolate.

Candied jellies covered in dark chocolate are what my grandmother always had when we were kids. No dairy, so you could eat them with either milk or meat.

As for me, I don't keep Kosher, but I'm glad I know know about the icz list. When we move to Zurich next year, I do want to check out the stores in wiedikon.

So thanks for all the responses.

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Re: Kosher chocolate

I don't keep kosher either, and I may get struck down because I love a bacon sandwich (sorry god), not fussy about chocolate, will eat it all
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Old 12.09.2011, 14:04
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I don't keep kosher either, and I may get struck down because I love a bacon sandwich (sorry god), not fussy about chocolate, will eat it all
Even this?

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I don't keep kosher either, and I may get struck down because I love a bacon sandwich (sorry god), not fussy about chocolate, will eat it all
Nah, I doubt it. If there is a God, surely he/she/it loves bacon and chocolate. Some of humanities finest creations.

Me, I'm only half Jewish, - my dad was raised in an Orthodox home (he also ate a lot of bacon outside the home). My grandmother would bring her own food to our house if she came for dinner, later on, just her own meat wrapped in foil - she'd eat non meat stuff in our house.

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Even this?


well I would certainly try it.....even out of curiosity.
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@FC Barca, why can't someone announce their religion to the world without being a zealot and what makes specific eating requirements an announcement of any kind? And why should people keep their beliefs to themselves? Do you feel beliefs are things to be ashamed of? And why is kosher chocolate any more or less ridiculous that eg Halal meat?
Religion doesn't have a place in mainstream, IMHO...You want to worship a frog, by all means, knock yourself out...But let's not stock frog blessed items at the grocer either

When your stores are stocking for specific needs of some religious rite, as in this case of a Rabbi observing the production of chocolate?

Good grief, next thing you know people will need a section at Migros for Scientology observed food & chocolate too...Do you see items at the grocer that have been blessed by a priest?...No

That is the issue, food is food and like I mentioned earlier, the idea of catering to the religious whims of minority groups is not something I subscribe to...It's like the head scarves or yamakas in school...You want to practice your religion, do it in your home or at your place of worship - why advertise

And chocolate?...Really?...If I handed you a piece of chocolate blessed by me, a rabbi, a mullah or priest, would you know the difference?...Would anyone?...It's nonsensical, IMHO
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the idea of catering to the religious whims of minority groups is not something I subscribe to...
What are you? Some kind of communist?

People want to buy kosher chocolate, so other people make it and sell it to them: this is called commerce. You might not like it, but it's what keeps most of us in work.

You really should have paid more attention in school, old chap.
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That is the issue, food is food and like I mentioned earlier, the idea of catering to the religious whims of minority groups is not something I subscribe to... IMHO
Judaism: a 4000-year-old religious whim.
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It's one of the things I do love about Switzerland, not indulging in all this religious differentiation...I'm all for people observing their own religion, just keep it to themselves...
Ha. What do you call chocolate Easter eggs and Santas, sold by the many millions?
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well I would certainly try it.....even out of curiosity.
I am absolutely addicted to chocolate with sea salt. You can't believe how good it is, especially if it's very dark chocolate with big pieces of sea salt. Mmmmm.
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It's one of the things I do love about Switzerland, not indulging in all this religious differentiation...I'm all for people observing their own religion, just keep it to themselves...Kosher chocolate?
I suspect that the reason that Switzerland doesn't label chocolate as Kosher or not has more to do with economics than anything else. If there was more demand for Kosher food, then those dark chocolate Lindt bars would be labeled. I wonder if exports are labeled. Sorry to burst your bubble.

And BTW, those Lindt dark chocolate bars are often Kosher and Parve(neither meat nor dairy), if they contain no dairy. Lots of the excellence ones are.
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so interesting. I had no clue that also existed.
Just thought Kosher was another word for Halal.
The concept does not exist in Islam though for such derivates.
As long as it has no poison, pork, then its all halal.
Meat on the other hand needs to be halal for consumtion.
Which is not just a blessing but to slaughter the animal according to Islamic traditions, meaning no blood being left in.
Goshl, my old Dad then ... he slaughtered according to Islamic tradition, without being aware of doing so!

He "did" our animals for eating .... Killed it (cut throat) and then hung it up overnight ... for the blood to drain out.

I have once seen meat where the blood had not drained out .... a buck killed by auto on the road ..... and the meat had blood clots in it. Of course we tried to save the waste of an animal freshly killed - but after transporting the carcass, realised the non-blood letting prevented it being edible, for us.

So, to my simple way of thinking ..... most all meat has the blood drained out, huh? .. otherwise no-one would want to eat it, with dark blobby blood clots all over...?

Or does the animal have to be kept alive while it`s blood is draining out...?
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Ha. What do you call chocolate Easter eggs and Santas, sold by the many millions?
... Ja! And what do you call chocolate crocodiles at Easter time ....... ?
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