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Old 13.09.2011, 10:40
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Meat on the other hand needs to be halal for consumtion.
Which is not just a blessing but to slaughter the animal according to Islamic traditions, meaning no blood being left in.
I guess pressed duck is off the menu, then!

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Smokey, Kosher rules may be found in the first 5 books of the Old Testament.
They're worth a read and make very good sense in terms of health and hygiene.
In an era before refrigerators and electricity, keeping kosher kept people healthy.
- washing hands and feet before eating
- not eating shellfish or uncleft hooved animals (risky on a hot day with perhaps poor preparation)
- separating dairy and meat (do not cook a kid goat in it's mother's milk) is just decent if you think of it

The rabbi doesn't only bless the food he also makes sure that the place of preparation is according to kosher rules and that the ingredients are too.

It's all common sense really
Yes, I know the Bible, and enjoy the old testament too, quite fascinating all those rules for clean living..... How to set up camp hygienically, how to diâgnose various diseases.......

You mention washing hands ... and feet ... Why the feet? Hands I can understand, but feet...?

Animals that may be eaten are those that chew the cud AND have split hooves completely divided. ....... chewing the cud and not having a split hoof, or split hooves but not chewing the cud is taboo.

The seperation of meat and dairy ..... ja, to not cook animal flesh in it`s body secretions/fluids. Funny that the fat of an animal must be removed and burned (as an offering) .... they make candles from the fat .... so that could be construed as a "burnt offering" ...huh?

But ... at the end of the day, I get confused ...... why is only some things continued to this day .. and others forgotten about?
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I guess pressed duck is off the menu, then!

Tom
Did you really have to put that link here? I read it ... and now can no longer eat pressed duck! ....... uuugghhh ........ the duck is strangled to retain its juices, then half cooked, and then pressed to extract its duck blood and other juices ....... this sauce is thickened with its crushed liver .................
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Old 13.09.2011, 14:37
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Did you really have to put that link here? I read it ... and now can no longer eat pressed duck! ....... uuugghhh ........ the duck is strangled to retain its juices, then half cooked, and then pressed to extract its duck blood and other juices ....... this sauce is thickened with its crushed liver .................
But that's what makes it so YUMMY! (yes, I really do like it)

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Old 13.09.2011, 14:41
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I guess pressed duck is off the menu, then!

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Did you really have to put that link here? I read it ... and now can no longer eat pressed duck! ....... uuugghhh ........ the duck is strangled to retain its juices, then half cooked, and then pressed to extract its duck blood and other juices ....... this sauce is thickened with its crushed liver .................
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But that's what makes it so YUMMY! (yes, I really do like it)

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This is why I am so intolerant of the French. The things they do to Anatids are unspeakable horrors!!!
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Old 13.09.2011, 14:45
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Goshl, my old Dad then ... he slaughtered according to Islamic tradition, without being aware of doing so!

He "did" our animals for eating .... Killed it (cut throat) and then hung it up overnight ... for the blood to drain out.

I have once seen meat where the blood had not drained out .... a buck killed by auto on the road ..... and the meat had blood clots in it. Of course we tried to save the waste of an animal freshly killed - but after transporting the carcass, realised the non-blood letting prevented it being edible, for us.

So, to my simple way of thinking ..... most all meat has the blood drained out, huh? .. otherwise no-one would want to eat it, with dark blobby blood clots all over...?
Modern slaughtering methods get all the blood out. If you eat a rare steak, that red liquid - it isn't blood. And for those who think it is, and insist on having steak ruined - it doesn't go away be cooking.
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This is why I am so intolerant of the French. The things they do to Anatids are unspeakable horrors!!!
How so? Which would you prefer, death by hanging (and having your neck broken), or having your throat slit (and slowly bleeding to death?

Anyway, the taste is worth it (yes, I love foie-gras, too!)

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But ... at the end of the day, I get confused ...... why is only some things continued to this day .. and others forgotten about?
If you respect kosher, all of the rules are still continued.
(but you'd need to ask a rabbi)
I'm fascinated with Jewish history and traditions, but would not know the details as a Roman Catholic
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How we got from chocolate to draining the blood of animals is beyond me

I started off quite hungry reading about choccy but by the end of this thread I feel this morning's brekkie making it's way back up
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How we got from chocolate to draining the blood of animals is beyond me
Hope no-one from Lindt is reading this - luxury dark chocolate with hint of calf's blood will be among their new line along with salty chocolate and chocolate with chilli.

Chocolate is chocolate. Don't mess.
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Hope no-one from Lindt is reading this - luxury dark chocolate with hint of calf's blood will be among their new line along with salty chocolate and chocolate with chilli.

Chocolate is chocolate. Don't mess.
Sanguinaccio is an Italian Lenten delicacy that already got there
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If you eat a rare steak, that red liquid - it isn't blood.
What is it?
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Sanguinaccio is an Italian Lenten delicacy that already got there
OK, it's not even 9am and I'm already weirded out.
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Sanguinaccio is an Italian Lenten delicacy that already got there


Contaminating black pudding with chocolate just isn't right.

Anyway, I'm guessing that's not kosher.
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What is it?
Myoglobin.
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