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errr yes, they are, called Weisse Rüben, http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbstr%C3%BCbe

What you are saying is, to give it its botanical name, Bollockus totalis.

Do try to keep up!!!


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Why do the northern Brits have it backwards?

Tom

I give up - why do us northern brits call a white turnip a turnip, and a Swedish turnip a turnip?

Perhaps coz it makes more sense than calling them "whites" and "swedes"?
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Old 05.10.2011, 15:26
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What you are saying is, to give it its botanical name, Bollockus totalis.

Do try to keep up!!!





I give up - why do us northern brits call a white turnip a turnip, and a Swedish turnip a turnip?

Perhaps coz it makes more sense than calling them "whites" and "swedes"?
Follow the link I posted:

Southern England, most Commonwealth countries

Brassica rapa rapa = turnip
Brassica napus or B. napobrassica = swede (= Swedish turnip

Ireland and parts of Northern England

Brassica rapa rapa = swede or white turnip
Brassica napus or B. napobrassica = turnip or yellow turnip

Scotland

Brassica rapa rapa = Milan turnip, white turnip, or swede
Brassica napus or B. napobrassica = turnip or neep

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Old 05.10.2011, 15:43
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Re: Where can I find swede (the vegetable)?

I'm sorry but this is the perfect situation to say:

Vocês são todos uma cambada de nabos!*











*You are all a bunch of turnips!

Turnip in slag means bonehead.


How does the yellow one taste like? I've never eaten one. Is it similar to the white?
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Follow the link I posted:
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Scotland

Brassica rapa rapa = Milan turnip, white turnip, or swede
Brassica napus or B. napobrassica = turnip or neep
Not in this neck of the North British woods, nope - never once in half a century have I heard a white turnip referred to as a swede by a Scot.

I would refer you to another bit of Krapipedia, namely Wikipedia reference-linkRutabaga#Etymology, which gets it right
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Re: Where can I find swede (the vegetable)?

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Swedes (Swedish Turnips, aka Rutabagas) are basically yellow fleshed turnips, larger than the white fleshed ones, but similar in taste and usage.

Other than for color or carving possibilities, they can be interchanged freely.

Tom
Tom, I have to disagree with you there. They might be interchangeable in stews and soups but you can't mash turnips, I've tried. All the water comes out of them. You end up with a separated fibrous mass and an unappetizing liquid. You can't get a smooth mash.

Other posters have bemoaned the general lack of root vegetables here. For a feast go to Copenhagen in the winter (for all I know, anywhere in Scandinavia) and the variety of root vegetables is wonderful - lots of odd looking things that I've no idea what they are or what to do with.
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Re: Where can I find swede (the vegetable)?

Well, I've never had a problem mashing them.

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Thanks everyone, looks like I'll have to wait til I go to England again!
When I was living in Basel I found them at the farmer's stalls in the Marktplatz on Saturdays so perhaps you have something similar in Zurich.
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You can buy them in the big Kaufland in Konstanz (Germany), when they are in season. www.kaufland.de - Carl-benz-straße 22, Konstanz +49 7531 8199280
I can verify this as I bought my 'neeps' there too......still waiting for them to appear this season though.
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Re: Where can I find swede (the vegetable)?

Ladies and gentlemen,

The regular turnips (lilas/white when uncooked, soft white when cooked) are now available in the Migros in Stäfa.

They are called "Räben", cost 1.60 CHF each, and are 20 cm in diametre. They unfortunatelly do not include the green, just the turnip itself, which is a bummer because turnip soup is awesome with the green.

Happy food hunting!

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Re: Where can I find swede (the vegetable)?

"Räben" almost exclusively are used for carving and putting a little light in and join the "Räbenliechtliumzug" (= turnip light procession) around beginning of November. (Check local newspaper for exact date of the procession. Usually, only for kids up to 12 and their parents. Older children up to 16 sometimes show up, blow out the candles, make kid cry and then shows up another older, much kinder one with a lighter and lights the candle again which makes kid happy. (<-personal experience))
They get eaten by a) very old people who got raised on them and like to indulge in "childhood flavors" and b) super healthy living individuals who got told that they are good for their health (which is true!). All the other dispose of the carved out material immediately, whereas the carved Räbe get's a life of about a week on the window sill / balcony (depending on temperatures outside) and then gets thrashed as well.

BTW: this "light procession" most probably stems from some pagan ritual, and I bet it's somehow related to Halloween, since both are held around the same time.

Anyway. After WWII turnips dropped in peoples favor, carrying the "taste of the war" with them, since they grew pretty well and made it into a staple food when food was rationed (yes, food was also rationed in Switzerland). So people turned to "hipper" vegetables ... and turnips almost got forgotten, safe for the "Räbenliechtliumzug". Since the customer's demand is only pretty high around the time of this procession, the stores carry them for a very limited time. Not sure, how much of a comeback they had during the recent years. Their smell isn't easy to stomach for some people, so I don't think they will get into "fashion" any time soon.

So, no culture of cooking with turnip and turnip-like veggies here (any more). Best bet - as some already wrote - ask a local vegetable farmer in your local market. But mind you: describe exactly what kind of turnip it should look like. There are a lot of different sorts which usually are very locally grown and I can't imagine English sorts being transferred to Switzerland. So you might get something that is "close" to your expectation. If you can live (and cook) with it, all the better.

A note on "Gelbe Rübe": in Southern Germany, "Gelbe Rübe" sometimes also refers to carots!
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Re: Where can I find swede (the vegetable)?

Yippee!!! Found "Neeps" (Yellow/orangey flesh Turnips) yesterday at Lenzburg weekly market, they were in a basket next to the Swede (white flesh) vegetable, I asked the lady what a Neep is called here and she wrote it down for me "BODENKOHLRABI".

So get checking your local markets now!

Tomorrow mashed neeps with our Sunday dinner. Lovely!
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Thanks for the info. Must get along there next week!
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Thanks for the info. Must get along there next week!
Oscarsmum - they were so good, not so strong orange in colour when cooked but didn't mind the taste was there. Will be definately back for more too! Enjoy!
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Yippee!!! Found "Neeps" (Yellow/orangey flesh Turnips) yesterday at Lenzburg weekly market, they were in a basket next to the Swede (white flesh) vegetable, I asked the lady what a Neep is called here and she wrote it down for me "BODENKOHLRABI".

So get checking your local markets now!

Tomorrow mashed neeps with our Sunday dinner. Lovely!
No you didn't

As said several times above, the yellow fleshed things are Swedes. Turnips are white, often red/purple on the outside. I find the taste to be different (turnips are nicer).

The other things you found are actually Kohlrabi (same name in English), not turnips. These are quite common here. Buy the small ones rather than the large ones.

Aldi had Swedes at a reasonable price most of last winter. Haven't seen them this time yet, though.
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Re: Where can I find swede (the vegetable)?

Ahh, lovely discussion, I grew up in Northumberland where we would go into the turnip fields to get our halloween 'bagie' to carve, mum would make soup with the scrapings!! Having left the north and the uk at the tender age of 19, I already started my search for yellow turnips in France then here in CH. Tried to grow them...they need cold northern climates, good hard frosts to sweeten them up (which they don't wait for here) and they need to grow to a good size,( which is also what they don't do here). I find them on little market stalls for a few months, the purple/white ones are bitter and uncomparable to the sweet yellow turnip. Up north the white turnip was the posh version!! Buy the biggest you can get, they are delicious lightly boiled and then roasted, or pan fried ( mum always used to cook them like that until we started to enjoy them as mash ) or just as mash and have them with a reet big haggis and tatties. Lovely.
p.s. interesting,perhaps Northumbrian term 'bagie' may come from ruta'baga' hmmm.
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Re: Where can I find swede (the vegetable)?

Swedes and parsnips are in the large Kaufland in Konstanz, got a bag full tonight, great to see parsnips there as well.
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Re: Where can I find swede (the vegetable)?

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The other things you found are actually Kohlrabi (same name in English), not turnips.
Bodenkohlrabi is one of the names I've seen here for swedes/neeps/yellow turnip. I've just bought one today at COOP (in Feuerthalen, near Schaffhausen), and the sign said "Bodenkohlrabi" (& I've been eating these for years, so can tell the difference between a swede and kohlrabi).

I've seen them previously in Switzerland with different names though. As they don't seem to be a native veg, it looks like they haven't agreed on a name yet.

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Re: Where can I find swede (the vegetable)?

COOP also had the white turnips, but interestingly, they don't seem to consider them edible... They were in a box, away from the other veg with a sign saying "Räbe - für Lichtli" (turnips - for lanterns)
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