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Re: Americans in CH- What are you doing for Thanksgiving?

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I've got my eye on some pheasant I've seen at the butcher in Manor.
Pheasant are kind of small for Thanksgiving, don't you think? (unless you're on your own). At best one is enough for two. Also, they shouldn't cook long, otherwise they will dry our big time!

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Re: Americans in CH- What are you doing for Thanksgiving?

Some awesome ideas & advice- thanks everyone! A colleague of my wife is a U.S. military dependent and will be going to a base exchange in Germany next weekend for some shopping, so maybe we'll be able to get some of the U.S. stuff. If not, I've been in restaurants for 9 years, and I know my way around a kitchen. I do think the dimensions of my oven are going to be a HUGE determining factor, though.
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He's a southern boy--he will be able to adapt as long as there are vast quantities of bourbon available.

There's nothin' that can't be fixed with a bit of brown likker.
I'm more of a scotch type, but I love a good bourbon for some homemade barbecue sauce. Toss some pureed mango in, and you have an awesome sauce! And the bourbon barrels make for great barrel-aged beers!

Speaking of the beverages- who has the best eggnog (Eierlikor?)?
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Pheasant are kind of small for Thanksgiving, don't you think? (unless you're on your own). At best one is enough for two. Also, they shouldn't cook long, otherwise they will dry our big time!

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I've never had them before Tom (so probably best not to try them first for a big day anyhow ) but was thinking that 2 or 3 of them should do for us as it would only be 6 adults, two of whom really are not "big eaters." I keep thinking that a turkey would be a waste for us, maybe not though. Still time to play with ideas.
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Old 24.10.2011, 16:54
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2. You will never find brown sugar at a price that doesn't make your eyebrows lodge themselves up at your hairline, so just start planning on adapting your sweet potato recipe and your apple pie recipe now using white sugar and molasses.

3. Forget finding cornbread stuffing cubes. Forget finding Jiffy cornbread mix to make your own. Start googling now for "Yankee" stuffing recipes that use seasoned bread cubes because you can make these yourself. I have a great one (recipe) that I can give you, if you need it.

4. Forget finding cream of mushroom soup mix and/or Durkee fried onions for your green bean casserole. Make your green beans some other way.

5. Forget finding jellied cranberry sauce. I have seen whole berry canned cranberry sauce and I have seen fresh cranberries, but not the jellied kind. Adapt.
Really? I've been able to find all of these quite easily in France and through Amazon.uk and http://www.americanmarket.ch/ and http://www.myamericanmarket.com/us
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Really? I've been able to find all of these quite easily in France and through Amazon.uk and http://www.americanmarket.ch/ and http://www.myamericanmarket.com/us
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at a price that doesn't make your eyebrows lodge themselves up at your hairline
Sure, Thanksgiving is supposed to be a celebratory feast, giving thanks for what we have, BUT something dies a little inside when faced with paying over 4chf for a box of brown sugar, paying two-and-a-half francs for JIFFY mix (it is soooo cheap in the US!**) and various other things that if one were to buy exactly the same thing here, it costs so incredibly much.

Better to simply put oneself ahead of the game and get settled that there will be need for "learning" to make many things from scratch and doing full substitutions for others.





**2.55chf for something that costs maybe $0.50 STILL puts a hitch in my giddy-up, even 4yrs later.
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Old 24.10.2011, 17:07
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Re: Americans in CH- What are you doing for Thanksgiving?

Fresh cranberries are truly the world's easiest food to cook. My mom used to used the canned stuff, and I can only think ... why? Maybe it was hard to get fresh cranberries in the 70's and 80's. Add water and sugar and boil. You're done.

When I was 21 years old -- 21 years ago -- I made an entire Thanksgiving dinner in Germany for 12 people, from bare-bones scratch, with a dead bird from the farmer down the road. I had barely cooked anything before. I had to pick up the turkey the day before and set it out -- in the bathroom with the window open -- to keep it somewhat cool. I was sure that I was going to poison everyone, having listened to the Butterball ladies since childhood. If everyone is laughing until they cry by the end of the meal (and not because of the food!), you know it's a successful Thanksgiving. I have never been able to replicate that event -- nothing is quite as joyful as a bunch of Uuslaender enjoying a national holiday together far from home.
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Old 24.10.2011, 17:22
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Sure, Thanksgiving is supposed to be a celebratory feast, giving thanks for what we have, BUT something dies a little inside when faced with paying over 4chf for a box of brown sugar, paying two-and-a-half francs for JIFFY mix (it is soooo cheap in the US!**) and various other things that if one were to buy exactly the same thing here, it costs so incredibly much.

Better to simply put oneself ahead of the game and get settled that there will be need for "learning" to make many things from scratch and doing full substitutions for others.

Well it depends on what you want though. If you crave that original Thanksgiving taste like Mom made (using Jiffy etc), then making things from scratch and substituting most likely won't do the trick. In fact, you may end up spending more in the end doing several trial and errors to get it just right.
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Re: Americans in CH- What are you doing for Thanksgiving?

In the US, at least, I used to brine a capon with a smallish group. I understand that I might be able to get one in France or possibly Germany, maybe in Oerlikon. This year, I want to try a recipe I found for a bread stuffing with figs and nuts in it.

We've always done unusual things for Thanksgiving, even in the US - some years foregoing the poultry altogether. Once year we had salmon, another rack of lamb. It just depended on whoever was there.

There is this no-cook cranberry relish that we make on occasion - it's cranberries, whole clementines (or mandarines) and sugar - dump it all in the blender and go for it.(I can't remember the proportions though). Although I am more fond of cooked cranberry sauces made with a touch of orange or cinnamon and perhaps some brandy.

I have to say that I've never made green bean casserole, but you can get the onions at Ikea, and I imagine that you can make a mushroom sauce with a bechemel.
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Mashed potatoes (packet is fine)
A lot of great advice but packaged mashed potatoes? It is so easy to make the real thing.

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Forget finding Jiffy cornbread mix
Mmmmmmmm. Jiffy cornbread. I still have 3 boxes from the last time I was in the US.

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That's not a turkey, that's just a big (US sized) chicken!
That is exactly what my father said when I told him the size of my turkey!

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Sounds interesting. Would you like to share the recipe? My wife loves sweet potatoes, and I might make that for dinner one night soon.
It's dead easy. I even make it when sailing using a whisk to make it into a soup. It has been so long I don't know the amounts from the original recipe, but here it is:
6-7 sweet potatoes
2 teaspoons curry powder (I use 1 teaspoon mild and one hot)
vegetable broth

Peel potatoes and cover with enough vegetable broth. Boil until soft. Depending on how much broth I used, I take some out and set it aside. Then using a hand mixer I blend it until smooth. If it is too thick, add broth. Oh, and I add some freshly ground pepper before the last blend. I think the original called for cream or milk to be added to make it smoother. Being lactose intolerant, I left that part out. I did make it sometimes with coconut milk, which works well, but I like it without anything else added. Makes a great evening meal!
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Re: Americans in CH- What are you doing for Thanksgiving?

Anyone else ever make Mama Stamberg's Cranberry Relish recipe from NPR's Susan Stamberg? I tried it one year ... it was, um, interesting. And most definitely Pepto-Bismol colored. The recipe is at the bottom of this article:

http://www.npr.org/2010/11/19/131370...anberry-relish

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Re: Americans in CH- What are you doing for Thanksgiving?

You can find Ocean Spray jellied cranberry sauce here:

http://www.americanmarket.ch/


You can find Campbell's Cream of Mushroom soup in Kusnacht at the Gourmet House -- along with Doritoes, pop tarts, mac & cheese, other Campbell's soups too. It is the ONLY place I have ever seen cream of mushroom soup and I have no idea how they get it in their store!?
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You can find Campbell's Cream of Mushroom soup in Kusnacht at the Gourmet House -- along with Doritoes, pop tarts, mac & cheese, other Campbell's soups too.
I'm so proud that these products are considered "gourmet" here....now if I can only find cheese in a spray can
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Re: Americans in CH- What are you doing for Thanksgiving?

Can someone adopt me for Thanksgiving please!! Willing to bring homemade eggrolls.

Should I start a "adopt an American for Thanksgiving" thread?
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Re: Americans in CH- What are you doing for Thanksgiving?

The American Club of Zürich does Thanksgiving dinner
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It doesn't look like the details are quite there, but we
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http://www.acz.ch/index.php?id=243
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I had been doing a thanksgiving for us for the last two years, but I may skip it this year because my husband is from the UK and he doesn't really get the whole thing. Plus I couldn't get any pumpkin pie filling this year... sadly But who knows. I have all month to change my mind. I do really like the holiday and the foods are my favorite, but I hate the clean up... haha
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I'm so proud that these products are considered "gourmet" here....now if I can only find cheese in a spray can
Right next to the Cool Whip, I'm sure...
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The American Club of Zürich does Thanksgiving dinner
every year.

It doesn't look like the details are quite there, but we
go almost every year.

http://www.acz.ch/index.php?id=243
Do you have to be a registered member of the American Club of Zürich to go to just the Thanksgiving dinner?
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I had been doing a thanksgiving for us for the last two years, but I may skip it this year because my husband is from the UK and he doesn't really get the whole thing. Plus I couldn't get any pumpkin pie filling this year... sadly But who knows. I have all month to change my mind. I do really like the holiday and the foods are my favorite, but I hate the clean up... haha
I use Hokkaido pumpkins for my local pumpkiny goodness. They're pretty easy to deal with, one average size one (they're not terribly large) should work well for one pie.

Simply cut in half, place in a baking pan cut side down and bake on about 180°C until soft. I was able to scrape the flesh from the peel pretty easily once they were baked and cooled a bit and they're not as watery as some of the other squash varieties so I didn't need to let them drain after baking.

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I'm so proud that these products are considered "gourmet" here....now if I can only find cheese in a spray can
Right next to the Cool Whip, I'm sure...
I saw some Cheez Whiz in spray cans in the "Exotic Foods" section of a Rewe. They also had some Pillsbury biscuits-in-a-can in the refrigerated section.

I did not see any Cool Whip though. (Gruyere double cream - found at Migros - with a touch of vanilla and a bit of powdered sugar is reeeeeeeeealy good though!)
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Anyone know anything?
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