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Old 02.11.2011, 07:03
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Re: Eating on CHF 50 per Week. Is it Possible?

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I think I most weeks eat(and drink - without beer/booze) for around 50CHF or less..

A regular days diet is probably something like this

8 eggs - 1.9 chf
1.5 liter skim milk - 2.4 chf
1.5 liter water - 0 chf
350g pasta - 0.4 chf
200g shredded tomatoes - 0.6 chf
6 pieces of toast - 0.3 chf
6 pieces of (cheap) sliced meat - 0.8chf
= 6.4 chf per day

+ salt, pepper & mustard - 2 chf per week

I probably spend a little more as i sometimes get some bacon, cream and onion as well for a carbonara sauce..
Not very exciting, but it keeps the budget down.

It's a hard challenge though, and if I had more money, I sure as hell would eat differently!
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Old 02.11.2011, 07:12
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Re: Eating on CHF 50 per Week. Is it Possible?

I like you idea but if I may suggest to change the challenge to 100Chf for every 2 weeks. It will still be 50Chf/week..but it gives you more buying power in terms of veggies etc. which you may not use all in one cooking.
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Re: Eating on CHF 50 per Week. Is it Possible?

Personally, I'm happy to keep it below CHF 50/day!

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Re: Eating on CHF 50 per Week. Is it Possible?

I wonder what the OP's thoughts are on going out in the woods and shooting a rabbit ?
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Personally, I'm happy to keep it below CHF 50/day!

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It is just food. What the heck are you eating?
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Old 02.11.2011, 09:19
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Re: Eating on CHF 50 per Week. Is it Possible?

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  • the CHF50 will cover breakfast, a DIY lunch and dinner each day for two for a week
  • apart from dried pasta, yoghurts, cheese and ham, all ingredients will be raw, fresh, seasonal and/or unprocessed
You really have to make a compromise between the 50 CHF and the fresh ingredients. Or do your shopping in Germany
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Re: Eating on CHF 50 per Week. Is it Possible?

Dunno if this works for 2 people but being alone at the moment I am just plain lazy in the kitchen, I cook 3-4 varieties of meat/vegs in one go during weekends or when I need to one of the weekdays. I then store meal sized portions in small tight lid containers and refrigerate or freeze them. During the workweek I Just throw one in the nuker as needed. It can be supplemented with soup/fresh bread/fresh salad depending on the mood. Saves electricity and a great way for portion control . And for drinks.. theres the Denner Gralsburg beer. I bought 2 500ml cans the first time for taste test and was so happy to get a 10 rappen change for my CHF 1.
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but why? would you do that? If you have to then i understand but it seems to me as sensible as sellotaping your eyes shut
Partly because I enjoy "stretching my legs" as a cook and partly as a (very low key and muted) protest against what I perceive as the unnecessarily high food prices in the supermarket (I understand that Swiss farmers get a mere fraction of what the supermarkets trouser from food sales). I believe that if more people tried to bring down their food bills (well maybe not to CHF50/week/2 people) and started buying directly from farmers (for seasonal fruit and veg) and from local butchers (for locally sourced, humanely raised, meat), the supermarkets would start to get the message.

I was also brought up not to waste food, an approach that is summed up by the old verse "Hot on Sunday, Cold on Monday, Hashed on Tuesday, Minced on Wednesday, Curried on Thursday, Broth on Friday..."

Unfortunately, there are quite a few obstacles to overcome, such as difficulty in sourcing the less expensive (but much tastier) cuts of meat (I think the average shopper only thinks of filet, chops and such like) and the time needed to source, purchase and cook the raw ingredients.

For me, as cooking is a pleasurable hobby, going to farmers shops and cooking from scratch is not a sacrifice (and it's amazing how much you can get done around the house on a weekend when the bread is raising or the oxtail is braising slowly). But I do realise that it's not for everyone

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I like you idea but if I may suggest to change the challenge to 100Chf for every 2 weeks. It will still be 50Chf/week..but it gives you more buying power in terms of veggies etc. which you may not use all in one cooking.
I'll give that a go, excellent tip

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I wonder what the OP's thoughts are on going out in the woods and shooting a rabbit ?
I have no objections, beyond the fact that I am such a bad shot that the only thing safe from me when hunting would be the rabbit itself

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You really have to make a compromise between the 50 CHF and the fresh ingredients. Or do your shopping in Germany
I haven't had to so far, I avoid supermarkets and buy seasonal and, if I know that the veggies will store well, I buy larger quantities.

I do sometimes go to Germany (or France) to buy food, but that's usually when I have a lot of guests coming for dinner and I do a big shop.

p.s. I'm quite pleasantly surprised at the interest my first post on the EF has generated
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Old 02.11.2011, 11:41
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It is just food.
Not for us it's not, more art and entertainment, and of course gastronomic enjoyment!

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My employer provides breakfast, lunch and dinner 5 days a week.
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Not for us it's not, more art and entertainment, and of course gastronomic enjoyment!

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You have no idea how much fun it can be to eat healthy, creatively varied, environmentally responsible and low budget at the same time.

For thirty years, I was married to a woman who, as a full-time house-wife, provided two warm meals (usually factory-made crap) per week, plus sex twice a year. No kidding. Plus she used up all my money to achieve that. For mere survival, I had to learn how to cook good and healthy meals from scratch and based on very simple ingredients, because my job didn't leave much time for shopping.

Now she still gets 85% of my income, so I'm glad I learned my lessons. I can easily meet TrainDoctor's honorable criteria, and that with a very varied and healthy cuisine. As a desirable side effect, my garbage production is absolutely minimal, about 0.6 Ltr. of non-recyclable waste per week, again no kidding. If I had the time, I should write a book.

The picture changes when my American OH is here. She's faithfully trying to live up to my standards in these fields, but she still has to learn a lot. Of course I sometimes drive her crazy, but she still tries to do her best. She says, before meeting me, she would never have believed achieving my goals were even remotely possible, and she still struggles, but at least she is trying, which I appreciate very much. And she may write a book on the topic some day. After all she's a writer.

Just one hint: It's possible to make four servings of a very rich soup with ingredients that cost you less than CHF 2.00. I use about 25 different soup recipes with at least 60 sub-varieties. The only things I have not successfully tried yet for making soup are old tires (tyres), cob webs and empty ink jet cartridges (ok, here I'm exaggerating a bit, but the rest is true. Such a soup and a nice tossed salad plus some home-made bread may make a whole meal, not always, of course, but fairly often.

Planning is the key. For instance, for two persons, you make eight servings of soup, freeze four and use the rest for two meals, modifying the second portion to avoid boredom. Same with many kinds of meat, although I generally use little meat.

I use very few ready-made ingredients. Of course, I rarely grind mustard seeds myself, but I never use ready-made sauces, stocks and the like, and canned stuff less than once a month. It's so easy and satisfying to make nice meals from scratch. All it needs is some fantasy, imagination and a sharp mind that tells you what goes together well.

Granted, it's a challenge, but it's worth the effort. I wouldn't change it even if I were stinking rich.
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Re: Eating on CHF 50 per Week. Is it Possible?

CHF 25.00/person/week is tough. In the army and in public retirement homes, the daily budget/person is around CHF 8.00, mainly due to economies of scale.
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Planning is the key. For instance, for two persons, you make eight servings of soup, freeze four and use the rest for two meals, modifying the second portion to avoid boredom. Same with many kinds of meat, although I generally use little meat.
This is a great (and cost-effective) suggestion. My wife and I tried a 'soup' diet that lends itself remarkably well to this technique. The whole focus is around creating a big pot of vegetable-based soup, then adding different ingredients each night to change the character of the basic soup.

I honestly expected the soups to all taste the same, but I was astonished at how different each soup was.

Here is the diet, which might offer some inspiration:

http://www.goodhousekeeping.com/heal...zing-soup-diet

I'd probably make some substitutions in the name of flavour (eg, replace the 'turkey' goulash, which was pretty uninspired, with oxtail or beef cheek) but otherwise this recipe was pretty successful. Combined with a good, hearty loaf of bread this could be an excellent, if non-diet friendly, meal.

I also made a few variations in the name of flavour and texture. The original soup is very thin and runny (and feels cheap as a result); a little cornflour to thicken it worked wonders for the texture. And I don't eat chicken/turkey/low-fat substitutions, so we used real smoked pork sausages instead of imitations.

Overall, though, this could be one route to staying within your budget while adhering to your philosophy of fresh, local produce.
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Old 02.11.2011, 14:07
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You have no idea how much fun it can be to eat healthy, creatively varied, environmentally responsible and low budget at the same time.
Well, we always cook from scratch, eat virtually all parts of an animal (wife likes veal head, not my thing, but we both like offal), but some things just aren't cheap (beef filet, porcini, most fish, good cheeses).

Last night's pumpkin tortelli were cheap (the pumpkin was free), tonight's capuns are sort of cheap (since most of the ingredients I already had, but still had to by CHF 12 of ingredients), but Friday's grilled fish with a side of pumpkin risotto (got to use those pumpkins) will be far less so.

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Re: Eating on CHF 50 per Week. Is it Possible?

At the risk of repeating myself, buy a whole chicken, roast it, and it should provide food for the next three days. On the first day, enjoy it simply roasted with seasonal vegetables and on the subsequent days make the remaining chicken into curry, cold chicken salad, or whatever else takes your fancy. Similarly, (if you are really into meat), buy cheap cuts and make them into soups with vegetables, lentils, pearl barley, dumplings etc etc. Make into large batches and either freeze or re-heat the next day.
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At the risk of repeating myself, buy a whole chicken, roast it, and it should provide food for the next three days.
That, or bone it and make stock with the carcass, and do various things with the meat (fried chicken with the wings and legs, something else with the breast, etc)

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Re: Eating on CHF 50 per Week. Is it Possible?

Great thread & Idea.

I don't think I would want to get to the 50chf mark as I love cooking with what ever catches my eye. That said, interesting challenge.

Some of the costcutting things I have learnt while being here are:

Planning while shopping. I saw some comments about planning menus ahead and for a specific project like this with very tight margins, it make perfect sense, otherwise do the opposite. As someone already mentioned, look for the Bargins. I used to always think " Tonight I will have..." and then go to the store. Now I just go and see what on Offer. If you always have meat in your diet, then you can really save quite a lot.

Never buy precut/washed packaged salads or vegetable

Go seasonal- Pumpkin has been a revelation to me. Roasted, mashed, soups etc. Last night was Salsiccia, calanoni beans, sage and pumpkin casserole. Stretch it out for 2 night or make a soup for the second day.

Hit Aldi or Lidl, but go early on the weekends as the Veg runs out.
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You have no idea how much fun it can be to eat healthy, creatively varied, environmentally responsible and low budget at the same time.
I did enough of that when I was a poor college student 30+ years ago!

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Re: Eating on CHF 50 per Week. Is it Possible?

I'm not sure why people are saying that you can't eat healthily inexpensively.

Honestly I think 50CHF per week for 2 if you are counting all 21 meals is a bit of a stretch. But I wouldn't say that you are eating poorly. In fact, to get the lowest possible figure you need to make everything from scratch and use fresh produce. You can't possibly say that's less healthy.

Breakfast: For example, 1 yogurt costs 1.70CHF but if you make it yourself you get 6 yogurts per liter of milk. In our village in CH I get my milk from the deposit point at 1.20 per liter. Apples are 3CHF per kilo that give you 6-7 apples per kilo, bananas 3CHF for 5. Clementines are on sale for 3.60CHF for 2 kilos (20-24 clementines). With tea and a bit of sugar, you're not going over 1CHF per person for breakfast: 1 CHF per person.

Lunch: Salad for two: 1 lettuce 2CHF, one tomato 0.60CHF, 1/2 an onion 0.10, 1/2 a cucumber 0.80CHF, oil & vinegar, salt: 3.50 for salad for 2. Add and omelet 2 eggs each at 0.40CHF each egg, plus a bit of cheese (1CHF): 2.85 per person.

Dinner: courgettes are on sale at 3.20 per kilo. You could make vegetarian lasagna that makes 6 portions with a kilo of courgettes, 2 cans of tomato (1.40 each), home made pasta (pennies), home made ricotta or home made béchamel (1.20), 100 grams of cheese (2.00CHF). That's, what, 10CHF for 6 portions. 1.65 per person.

I came in a bit high at 5.50 per person per day. But if you mix in a day of beans & rice, lentil soup, spaghetti aglio olio pepperoncini, plus add in "left over day", etc. The average per day will come down.

My point is that, I think my day's menu is pretty healthy and quite cheap.

Again, I don't know if I would do this every day, week in & week out. But can't you see how fun this is? Who said it wasn't fun??? I do find it amusing to think about.

I used the coop website for my prices. I don't know if you can get the products I listed cheaper somewhere else. Oh, and I saw that they have 4kg of flour for 3.20. That's a lot of pasta, bread (& cookies ).
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Re: Eating on CHF 50 per Week. Is it Possible?

Has anyone tried not spending anything at all in a day?

Yesterday I managed to spend zero sfr (shops were closed ) and today 35 sfr for lunch, but we were out the whole day (9am-5pm), so I packed some snacks and our water bottles.

Sometimes I take a picnic, go somewhere that's free like the Zug Strandbad in Summer, Animal park (with a club card or the Langnau one is free), or the Transport museum (we are members), or go hiking, make a fire and grill your lunch. It is certainly a challenge to not fork out for anything.

I just think of it as every hour's wage I save, that's one hour I don't have to spend at work

EDIT: I must sound like such a miser on these threads, but I did spend close to 1k on a night out earlier in the week, so my belt does need a little tightening. I'll be doing fitness / go for a swim in my lunchtimes for this month so I stay out of the shops.
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