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I forgot to mention she does not eat beans or bell pepper and she's allergic to nuts and soy products.
I'd say it's a non starter.
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I'd say it's a non starter.
It's not impossible but with not eating beans, nuts or soy the protein sources are lacking and that is a cause for concern. That rules out most go-to protein sources. And at least 30%, preferably 40%, of her diet should come from protein.
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Re: Vegan advice

MacGregor's Daughter, I don't want to sound like a hag, but I do agree with a lot of posts in here. Being a vegetarian or a vegan reduces a lot on the products your daughter is going to be able to ingest, and being allergic to nuts and soy, which is the base of most vegan/vegetarian diets, this seems like a very dangerous road to go.

I do understand you love your daughter and want to help her, but I would really advise you, as many did before me, to make your daughter cook for herself more often. It will help her understand the complications of being a vegan in this country, will make her understand her own limitations as a person with allergies, and will maybe make her understand you can't cook 3 different meals every day.

I had friends of mine turn vegetarian/vegan/whatever at their teenager years because that's what was hot in Hollywood at the time. It gave their parents quite a lot of hard work, and I fear, as a working mother with 2 other kids, you might get yourself into a tough problem.

Considering the allergies of your daughter, I would definitely consult a specialist to make sure being vegan is a feasible alternative.

Meanwhile, here are some vegan recepies:

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Excuse me, but if your daughter wants something different to the family meals, is there a reason why she cannot make it herself?
I second this. I was vegan for years and honestly, isn't it easy to be all hung up on animals rights when somebody else does the catering, screens the allergies and sprouts my beans?? The sprouting and soaking bit was a major biatch, it took about 3x as much time to actually take care of eating, shopping, preparing, etc.

Wouldn't a whole world decide for better eating ethics should they have a personal chef on hand?

I know this sounds biting, I don't mean it to be, in fact, should she or you want to contact me for tips, recipes and advice in terms of nutrition, you are welcome to pm me. Cooking for myself, and having different priorities was part of the whole experience for me, in fact I cooked vegan meals for families and friends where I lived, including my own. It was hard core, no animal products whatsoever, no cosmetics containing anything derived from animals, no honey, leather, no silk and yarn. It was super interesting. A period of raw food eating and frutarianism was also challenging.

There are a few essential things to watch out for, iron is one, calcium is another (artificial calcium did nothing for my absorption, by the way, watch her teeth and nails get super brittle and seethrough), selen, zinc, proteins will be another, check in a couple of months if she actually has her period. Family being in the public health risk assessment sector, watch out for lentils, beans, dry goods, pulses, oatmeals, since dry hippie products, should they been improperly stored will have a lot more crap in it to worry about than animal protein and products, mold toxins are cancerogenous and there has been research (no links, but contact me if you want, my uncle conducted that for my home country). You can quite easily sniff out presence of mold toxins in dry pulses, for example. I used to have cradit card sized listing all the Enumbers and animal derivates, to check the ingredients in food I bought.

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Obviously I know nothing about your circumstances, but having a nasty suspicious nature... perhaps it's worth checking whether she's hiding some eating disorder under the guise of what she considers moral eating.
Actually, those years of me being vegan was the only time I got my weigth finally over 50kilos, since one has to eat a large amount of food to fill up, proteins are simple and condense, greens, veggies and nuts do not fill up as easily, so one loads up. You know how one feels after one only ate a small salad for lunch, as compared with a sausage, right...

Anyways.

I say if she wants to go hardcore, let her explore and introduce YOU, OP to the wonders and joys of self limition and ethically driven restrictions. Let her take care of her own quest. Let her cook for the family every now and then, too, some vegan stuff I still make is yummy. Let her give you some tips on shopping if you go, but it should be primarily her to make sure her ethics are ok with the content of her own shopping basket (so she also sees the price!). Morals are one thing, but budgeting when food shopping is also another, real stuff to worry about when being picky.

I would check if she is fasting, personally, since it might influence her school performance in not so good way. It sometimes happens when one has strict limits and not convenient fast food on hand. I would also help her sign up for groups, there used to be a lovely vegan group in the UK when I lived there..

Good luck to her, it is a noble thing, surely is...
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My daughter has been a vegetarian for quite some time and she's about to beome vegan. This will affect the eating habits of the whole family since I cannot cook a completely vegan meal for her alone, fry steaks for the boys and cook something for myself.

WOW

Parents are soft these days.


I say if she's going to show you her independence, she can take it one step further and 'independantly' cook her own meals.


There's nothing wrong with her making these decisions by herself, but she doesn't live in a restaurant.


One family, one meal........... you don't like it? sort yourself out. (........ and clean up after yourself)
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Re: Vegan advice

Good sources of proteins aside from beans, soy products and nuts: lentils, quinoa. Why no beans? Is it dislike or a health reason similar to the allergy to nuts you mentioned? I ask because being a vegan without eating any kind of beans will largely limit her choices for proteic foods...And what about certain types of beans (like garbanzo for hummous, etc.)?

As I understand, quorn is not good for vegans because it has some egg white in it.

I have several vegan friends who shared good resources with me - if I could, my diet would comprise almost exclusively of meat, eggs, milk, and cheese (and the occasional veggie), but I can't because I need to keep cholesterol low, hence my quest for lots of alternative proteic foods. Check this out, this, and this for ideas.

Lastly, it is perhaps worth mentioning that veganism doesn't stop with food, but it affects lots of lifestyle choices in terms of clothing, entertainment (from the Vegan Society website: "Some alcoholic drinks, particularly beer, wine and cider, are often clarified using animal-derived substances, making them unsuitable for vegans."), etc. I am sure your daughter (and you) are already aware of this, but I just thought I'd add it as additional food for thought (pun intended).

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Old 07.11.2011, 13:35
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I don't have time for this, unfortunately, now, since I gotta do stuff right now to make cash to actually feed us some immoral stuff, hahaha....but check the latest research on fermented soy products, vs unfermented soy products, health problems.
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Re: Vegan advice

Hello MGD,

Given that you have managed to bring up your nut-allergic and soy-allergic child successfully for 16 years, I am guessing you are pretty creative in the kitchen anyway!

It's a shame she hates 'beans'?
Do you mean the vast variety of lentils and pulses that are out there? Is there a reason she hates them all?

I think she could eat pretty well as a vegan if she is willing to at least try chick peas, lentils (loads of types), black beans, kidney beans, cannellini beans, butter beans, puy lentils, etc. etc.
The point I am trying to make is that each of these tastes quite different, has different consistencies, and the tastes are totally transformed depending on how they are cooked (Mexican Chilli, Moroccan Chickpea Tagine, Indian dhals, various stews and casseroles and burgers and rissoles and dips, etc.). It may be worth asking her to reconsider the bean!!

What about suggesting she shops for herself on a Saturday? And maybe prepares some home cooked food on the Sunday (that can be frozen in portions), so that she is at least involved in some fo her meals during the week?

If she has never cooked before, maybe teach her how to do vegetable soups to start with?

Very easy and totally vegan - garlic/onion/leeks/celery/shallots or whatever in whatever combination cooked in olive oil, add the chopped up veg of choice (pumpkin, carrot, courgette, broccoli, cauliflower, sweet potato, Jerusalem artichoke, kohlrabi, normal potato, roasted tomatoes, etc.etc.). Stock of choice. Water. Cook, and blitz with hand held blender.

If she eats seeds, then toasted sunflower or pumpkin seeds are good sprinkled on top when reheated.

Rice and quinoa and buckwheat are easy to cook and you can have tubs of these cooked and cold in the fridge, ready to stir into various things.

Not easy, but entirely doable if she is willing to get involved
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Family being in the public health risk assessment sector, watch out for lentils, beans, dry goods, pulses, oatmeals, since dry hippie products, should they been improperly stored will have a lot more crap in it to worry about than animal protein and products, mold toxins are cancerogenous
Just to tag on to this thought... and also onto what Helm mentioned about the Hollywood hottness of Veganism...

What is your daughter's motivation for being a vegan/vegetarian?

Maybe you could meet with an English-speaking dietician to meet with you and your daughter to face the realities and consequences of her choice and how to manage it? Your family doctor should be able help you find one.
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Thanks for all the replies and advice. I will get into them a litte later for I have some work and somebody has to earn the family vegetables, so I'll be right back
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Re: Vegan advice

There was an article in the Tagesanzeiger this morning about the necessity of vitamin B12 suppliment for those following a Vegan diet.
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I get this, but naawwww...I think people are just more educated on this, it's a valid movement and has been here for eons. While some years back, people used to call me a rabbit and thought all I ate were carrots. There are bunch of vegans around that we do not know of, who would quietly express what they need just by altering their diet, no protests and demonstrations, no badges and ostentatious important talks...

One of my best friends has been vegan for close to 35 years and never ever talks about it, nor hangs out with the pretentious crowd and animal rights fanatics. My granpa was for good 75 years (don't ask me, though, how come he loved that awesome "vegetable" soup my grandma often cooked out of beef bones stock without him knowing, I wonder what made him live so long)..
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Apart from my previous advice of allowing your daughter to take 'responsibility' of her decisions, I think these three suggestions are pure gold.

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It is in yours and your daughters best interest to understand in full what it means to be 'vegan'.

This way you can help monitor your daughters meals, ingredients etc.

eg. If I was a kid and wanted to eat my own meals - it would be the worst food in the world.
Although I encourage you to allow your daughter to look after herself, you should also be equally aware of her dietry requirements to ensure she receives the nutrition she needs.

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If she has never cooked before, maybe teach her how to do vegetable soups to start with?
What a great opportunity to 'bond' with your daughter and spend quality time.

If you're REAL lucky it might "rub-off" in the other direction, and she could help you with the other meals.

Recipe's, ingredient combinations, cooking and preparing techniques, timing...... vegan or not, these things are best taught with patience, practice, and guidence.


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There was an article in the Tagesanzeiger this morning about the necessity of vitamin B12 suppliment for those following a Vegan diet.
Buying a few extra ingredients for the family shouldn't break the budget.

A few extra recipe's might create a few more idea's of your own.




I can only see good things coming out of this..


I wouldn't be a vegan ever....... but I say sieze the problem and create an opportunity.

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I get this, but naawwww...I think people are just more educated on this, it's a valid movement and has been here for eons. While some years back, people used to call me a rabbit and thought all I ate were carrots. There are bunch of vegans around that we do not know of, who would quietly express what they need just by altering their diet, no protests and demonstrations, no badges and ostentatious important talks...

One of my best friends has been vegan for close to 35 years and never ever talks about it, nor hangs out with the pretentious crowd and animal rights fanatics. My granpa was for good 75 years (don't ask me, though, how come he loved that awesome "vegetable" soup my grandma often cooked out of beef bones stock without him knowing, I wonder what made him live so long)..
To be fair, I don't think TidakApa was questioning the rights and wrongs of veganism, I think he was making a point that parents seem to be allowing their kids to do all sorts of stuff on a whim, perhaps without thinking it through and not seeing the downside of the practicalities.

Following a vegan diet is a whole lifestyle choice which nobody can do for you, as you have already pointed out. It's not for mums to bear the brunt of multiple diets for multiple family members.

At least that's how I understood his comment.
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I forgot to mention she does not eat beans or bell pepper and she's allergic to nuts and soy products.
Does she want to die? Do you want her to become seriously malnourished? Seriously, it's difficult enough being vegan if you do eat those things, but without them it's going to be almost impossible to get enough protein and vitamins.
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CORRECT !!!

If I have been mis-understood, my point was from the original post where the OP says it's difficult to cook so many options for dinner.

I would have felt the 'death stare' from my mum had I requested something different for dinner.


My point so far is to embrace the 'vegan' option from your daughter, but don't make things harder on yourself.

Part of growing up is "making decisions", and your role as a parent is to guide them.

I'm simply suggesting to use the opportunity to show the girl that 'stepping away and making your own decision and direction, is coupled with a new set of responsibilities'.

Don't let the girl just "tell you what to do", but point her in the right direction of how life really works.

"You want to do something different....... fine........ I'll even help you...... but it's not as easy as you think"

other than stating that I would never be a vegan, I haven't implied that there is anything wrong with it......
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Following a vegan diet is a whole lifestyle choice which nobody can do for you, as you have already pointed out. It's not for mums to bear the brunt of multiple diets for multiple family members.

At least that's how I understood his comment.
I did too, I was just ranting over the Hollywood fad these days. I knew he meant it well. On that note, though, teens are so overly sensitive on how we dish the "help" out to them, ya know.

As per dietician, I had two doctors stare in my plate every day when I decided to become vegan, with too frequent phone calls from another doc family members, in terms of what deadly diseases I am about to have (or suffer from, already, without knowing, heh), chemicals I am still loading myself with, despite of me wanting to be nice to those cute piglets, etc etc. It was actually pretty hilarious, but I think having zero help, in fact having scientists sabotaging my efforts, and quite rightfully so looking back, made me look into things more and want to really pull it off by myself, get educated asap on stuff and better prepared to defend my choices, too.

I cannot imagine putting a burden on anyone around me to actually cater to how ethical I decide the world in my book should be. Teens are very eager and determined when they decide for something, and it might be a really nice way to make her insterested in cooking, in general. It wasn't easy, but it was fun. I think it might be nicer for the kiddo to actually share her responsbile lifestyle with her peers showing she can do it, as opposed to my mom handles her diet ok (on top of handling all the other things..).

The best vegan quick food is humous, hands down, or peanut butter with apples. The best sweet tooth thing is halva sweetened by grapefruit juice. The best cookbook was a tiny British one, on wholefoods, not paricularly vegan, and I just made the recipe into vegan ones. I have to check back home for the title. It was more common sense than the overly fundie vegan ones I often saw pushed in healthfood stores, this one was more balanced, with great cakes (the non vegans ate them before they had a chance to cool off), more macrobiotic than anything else.
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Re: Vegan advice

MusicChick please stop spreading misinformation. Just because you did not maintain a healthy balanced diet or did not exercise self control does not mean that vegan or vegetarian diet is automatically bad. There are many of us who are on veg or vegan diets for more than a decade and are perfectly healthy without falling teeth or brittle nails. I mean really wtfbbq? Another thing just because someone starts eating vegetarian food does not mean they will lose weight. I know vegetarian people who fry all their food and are fat. Btw I have not eaten peanut butter in years! All that sugar, salt, hydrogenated oils no thank you.

I know you mean well but just because you had bad experience does not mean that is how it would be for everyone. The dairy and meat industry have been going on about protein and calcium myth for ages. Always check who is paying for various bogus research studies.

You can meet all your health needs on plant, beans/legumes, nuts and fruit based diet without any problem. Yes without dairy products too. Not one meal of mine takes more than 20-30 minutes to cook and they are not bland. Almost all meals are cooked from scratch using non processed foods. There is so much variety out there, if people would only open their eyes a bit.

Someone could be motivated to go veg for two main reasons.
1) It's a better diet and nothing to do with animal well being.
2) For ethical reasons.

In my case it's both but reason 1) was the biggest motivator. In my opinion a vegetarian diet is the best diet and the results are there for me to see. I look younger, feel younger and am fitter.

As for the OP. If your daughter is 16 and allergic to so many things then it might be complicated for her. Either way what is her motivation for this? At 16 she should be able to start fixing her own food. Tell her to try being vegetarian first. Get a blood test done to see where things are currently. That way you can track if she is eating a balanced diet or going MusicChick's way

Coincidentally I was watching a documentary "Forks over Knives" yesterday and I would recommend everyone to watch it if they care about their health.



This is an interesting docu too-

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Re: Vegan advice

It was rather strange seeing see this thread today, as today is my first day as a vegetarian!

I have been struggling with this desciion for months now(if not longer), my love of bacon, and salami, just kept getting the better of me!
I'm quite happy to have reached today, I feel great about it! I stopped focusing on all the things that I would not be eating and started focusing on everything that I could and would.

My 16year old niece has been a Vegan for 8 months now, and she says that she has never felt healthier in her life, and her skin glows. She is also in Gymnasium, though she does alot of cooking herself.

Here is a pic of my lunch, a very Vegan meal :
Dhall made with Red lentils
Spinach (fresh) with potatoes, braised with onions, garlic, chillies, black mustard seeds, Urad Dhall and Kurkuma.

Ebly is also a great change from rice and pasta.

Chickpeas is incredibly versatile,
Simple - With chopped onions, tomatoes, coriander, good salad sauce - Balsamic glaze dripped over
Mediocre - Humus, great spread on toast for breakfast
Complicated - Tomato sauce, cooked down until thicken, throw in fried Oyster mushrooms and the chickpeas, yum!

I do have an Eggless, milkless Choc cake recipe somewhere, when I do find it, i will post it.

All the luck MG!

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