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Old 17.04.2019, 14:28
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Re: Thermomix

I don't know the Moulinex but to me the fine grinding feature on the Thermomix is really important for me. To make a smooth Gazpacho you still need 5 min in the TM so can't imagine how long it would take in a weaker machine.

The scale is also an important feature for me.

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Does anyone here have experience with the Moulinex (Tefal) Cuisine i-Companion? https://www.tefal.com/cuisinecompanion

It's essentially similar to the original Cuisine Companion except with app connectivity etc.

It is basically a TM (Thermomix) competitor for 1/3 of the price and with 80% or more of the quality/functionality.

Reviews:

Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...sine+companion

https://www.trustedreviews.com/revie...sine-companion
https://www.expertreviews.co.uk/home...mpanion-review

Performance is in general very good and the pluses and minuses appear to be:

Pluses
  • Does most of the things a Thermomix does for around third of the price
  • Has additional attachments such as steamer/shredder/slicer available for purchase
  • Recipes for Thermomix can be adapted (there are conversion tables that exist to enable this) http://karenshine.com/using-tefal-cc...7c3-MO58jUnDdE
  • Parts (eg: blades) are removable and so should be easy to clean
  • Has a larger capacity brown than the TM

Minuses
  • Doesn't grind/mill/chop quite as finely as the Thermomix
  • Limited number of native recipes (but TM ones can be adapted, see above)
  • Doesn't have a built-in weighing scale like the TM
  • Only heats to 130c unlike the TM6 which heats to 160c
  • No English language for the app and recipes (due to it not being marketed in UK)
  • Additional attachments raise cost of ownership to maybe just over half price of a TM
  • The Thermomix is better and more convenient... if you can stomach the price.

Thoughts?
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I don't know the Moulinex but to me the fine grinding feature on the Thermomix is really important for me. To make a smooth Gazpacho you still need 5 min in the TM so can't imagine how long it would take in a weaker machine.
That isn't grinding/milling, that's blending right? Pretty much all machines do that fine unless I am misunderstanding.

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The scale is also an important feature for me.
It is convenient, true, but probably alone not worth the extra 1000chf...

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Re: Thermomix

The Thermomix TM 5/6 cost now around 1600 sfr, thats a crazy amount of money
for a small machine, on the low end these machines start at around 200 Euros.
Don't see that amount , but if you have to have it and the money burns a hole in your pocket .....
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Re: Thermomix

I have been looking into the Lidl version of the Thermomix as I heard quite positive things from friends that already have it.

Apparently it's always sold out very fast and it's going on sale again in France and Spain.

Would you guys know if it's coming any time soon to Switzerland? I checked the online leaflets but nothing...

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I have been looking into the Lidl version of the Thermomix as I heard quite positive things from friends that already have it.

Apparently it's always sold out very fast and it's going on sale again in France and Spain.

Would you guys know if it's coming any time soon to Switzerland? I checked the online leaflets but nothing...
I would say yes (at some point in time). If you look at your France link, lower down on the page they have the instructions for the connected version. On the cover page they mention the instructions are for France, CH and Belgium.

No idea of when it might be coming out but I would call Lidl CH on their consumer line. They might be able to tell you. Number 0800 857 000.
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I have been looking into the Lidl version of the Thermomix as I heard quite positive things from friends that already have it.

Apparently it's always sold out very fast and it's going on sale again in France and Spain.

Would you guys know if it's coming any time soon to Switzerland? I checked the online leaflets but nothing...
I would love to try this, but I have seen zero info on any CH release. They must make it in super limited quantities which is very annoying.

EDIT - We missed it in March https://www.preispirat.ch/ab-morgen-...-fuer-chf-349/

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I would love to try this, but I have seen zero info on any CH release. They must make it in super limited quantities which is very annoying.

EDIT - We missed it in March https://www.preispirat.ch/ab-morgen-...-fuer-chf-349/

I didn't even realize that it was here, I guess they were sold very fast
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Re: Thermomix

Just checked an they are OOS in Spain, where I live now. They are supposed to send me an email when back in stock, so will check it out. I have a few other Silvercrest Branded appliances and pretty happy with them.

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I have been looking into the Lidl version of the Thermomix as I heard quite positive things from friends that already have it.

Apparently it's always sold out very fast and it's going on sale again in France and Spain.

Would you guys know if it's coming any time soon to Switzerland? I checked the online leaflets but nothing...
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I have been looking into the Lidl version of the Thermomix as I heard quite positive things from friends that already have it.

Apparently it's always sold out very fast and it's going on sale again in France and Spain.

Would you guys know if it's coming any time soon to Switzerland? I checked the online leaflets but nothing...
This is now back in stock at Lidl Germany and can either be picked up or delivered to a German address (no delivery to Switzerland). I managed to get myself one via a friend https://www.lidl.de/de/silvercrest-k...c-1200/p320810
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Re: Thermomix

Still appears to be OOS in Spain. Looks good, though, so I will keep looking for it. Thnx for the update!

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This is now back in stock at Lidl Germany and can either be picked up or delivered to a German address (no delivery to Switzerland). I managed to get myself one via a friend https://www.lidl.de/de/silvercrest-k...c-1200/p320810
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I have been looking into the Lidl version of the Thermomix as I heard quite positive things from friends that already have it.

Apparently it's always sold out very fast and it's going on sale again in France and Spain.

Would you guys know if it's coming any time soon to Switzerland? I checked the online leaflets but nothing...
I managed to get the monsieur cuisine in Switzerland and I am very happy about it. I advise to monitor the facebook posts of Lidl and go the first day of the offer in the morning before the opening.
I went in a small gemeinde just outside Zurich and 10 appliances out of 30 on stock were sold before 8.15. Best of luck.
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I managed to get the monsieur cuisine in Switzerland and I am very happy about it.
Can you please give a summary of the strengths and weaknesses?
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Can you please give a summary of the strengths and weaknesses?
It's really good for sous vide. Not completely silent but not noisy. I still prefer my robot for cutting slicing and kneading.
Takes up lots of space.
Didnt really have time to explore all the functions but it was definitely a great buy. Definitely a big help in the kitchen.
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Old 05.12.2019, 17:32
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Re: Thermomix

CHIP did a summary (online) in Germany, I think if you go to the website of Focus.de, you can find it there.
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It's really good for sous vide. Not completely silent but not noisy. I still prefer my robot for cutting slicing and kneading.
Takes up lots of space.
Didnt really have time to explore all the functions but it was definitely a great buy. Definitely a big help in the kitchen.
Can you please say exactly what you use it for thats such a big help if you prefer to use another machine to chop, slice and knead?
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Re: Thermomix

My other machine can slice disks and stripes very well and kneads dough really good. I had it before and I don't puree often.
I used the Lidl one for sous vide, making sauces and creams, steaming etc. The cooking with stirring is a huge time saver.
Small drawbacks are also that you cannot set the temperature with 1 degree increments and that timer is limited to 99 minures
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Re: Thermomix

Ah and the other machine is easier to clean. The lidl is not bad at all but the other is just better. But maybe it's just me.

I forgot to say. The display is not super fast to respond but very usable and nice.
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Re: Thermomix

No wonder the Thermomix is so expensive, itīs made in Germany. But thatīs about to change, I heard a little snippet in the news this morning that from January on Vorwerk is going to have the Thermomix built in...


*****Drumroll*****


...China!


Along with the acompanying loss of good German jobs in future you will be buying cheap Chinese crap to German prices.
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Re: Thermomix

Guys I am really sorry but I completely forgot to post that I saw the Monsieur Cuisine Connect in stock in Lidl earlier this week for 'only' 349chf, which was a complete surprise as I didn't find any info about it on their website and annoyingly I ended up importing mine from Germany.

If you try a few stores they may be one left, but I wouldn't hold up too much hope...

I used mine for the first time earlier this week to make brownies using a guided recipe and it turned out pretty damn good for my first ever attempt making brownies, although next time I will double the amount of ingredients as the portion size was only big enough for filling half my baking tray. Maybe I will buy one of those specific brownie trays. I will also experiment with adding Lindt orange chcolate *licks lips*. I intend to start baking more regularly now so my work colleagues are going to bear the brunt of my experiments.

I also made a spaghetti bolognaise just for a laugh, but that was, as expected, pretty disgusting. Bolognaise and similar dishes are completely unsuited to being cooked in this machine as it doesn't get hot enough to fry meat properly and the guided recipe is not so good. Next I will try some breads and soups etc.

Where it seems to do a good job from all reports is for mixing, emulsifying, sous vide (with a 99 min timer limit), steaming, soups and sauces etc so I am looking forward to trying out some recipes and adjusting them as needed.

The display on the machine is surprisingly good and everything looks sharp and high resolution with a nice clean interface. It's pretty loud but that's to be expected and it sticks to a table nicely with sucker feet which keeps it in pace well.

You can see all of the available guided recipes here https://www.monsieur-cuisine.com/en/recipes/
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Re: Thermomix

Well, as for Made in China:
it all depends on the specs and the budget you give the Chinese (and the amount of QA you do).

My mother has a TM5 and for a two- or three-person household, it's usually enough.

But with the coffee-maker and the TM5 and a bread-slicer and a microwave and other stuff, the kitchen is pretty cramped.

It does cut down stuff very nicely and consistently, I give it to that.

I agree that it's cumbersome to clean. Especially after preparing stuff like potato-mash. You really have to use the machine itself to clean it. Otherwise it's almost impossible to get everything from all the nooks and crannies.

For a household of four or more, you still need a bigger food-processor like a large Bosch or Kenwood.
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